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07-24-2008

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-13, 19:38 PM

Be careful when speak about the Seagate 7200.4 I just bought one and it seems to not be compatible with t61p, and I don't know why. I'm searching a technician, the official one wanted a lot of money considering the quite little thing and out of risk that means change the hdd (100$)

 

Also it can be damaged the disk, I tried it in the ultrabay and USB case and didn't work. But in Seagate forums there several post with the same incompatibility complain.

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-13, 20:06 PM

I'm saying: No real need to have 3 Gbit/s on a T61.

My T61 is running fast enough with a WD Scorpio Black 320 GB disk and this disk is holding 233 GB at the moment.

 

X25-M read speed alone might be limited to something close to ~150 MByte/s by SATA-150 on the T61, but not crippled.

A SSD attached to SATA-150 on your T61 is still fast enough overall, faster than any existing 2.5 inch notebook disk drive.

 

Cheers

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-13, 21:29 PM

Well of course I don't NEED it :smileywink:  just like I don't need the SSD itself, or the fastest CPUs, and so on. But it is indisputable that SATA 150 does limit the throughput of SSDs to a tangible degree depending on usage, and as a result gives me less performance return on the dollar. Partly I blame myself, for not checking this specifically at the time of purchase. On the other hand how would I have known a high-end laptop of this reputation to have such a limitation? Oh well, you live and learn.

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-13, 22:15 PM

wrote:

I'm saying: No real need to have 3 Gbit/s on a T61.

My T61 is running fast enough with a WD Scorpio Black 320 GB disk and this disk is holding 233 GB at the moment.

 

X25-M read speed alone might be limited to something close to ~150 MByte/s by SATA-150 on the T61, but not crippled.

A SSD attached to SATA-150 on your T61 is still fast enough overall, faster than any existing 2.5 inch notebook disk drive.

 

Cheers

Message Edited by MacX on 05-13-2009 11:55 PM

You can claim that your WD Scorpio Black is running fast enough *for you*, not that it's just simply "fast enough". And same applies to "SSD attached to SATA-150 on your T61 is still fast enough overall".

 

Different people have different needs and expectations.

 

And it's not so much about whether it's fast enough or not, it's about the fact that I have a chip in my laptop that is able for SATA-300 speed, the fact that Lenovo charged me some bucks to install it in my laptop (it could have been cheaper if they simply used a SATA-150 chip), and the fact that someone crippled it because he/she had the same ridiculous idea that it's "fast enough".

 

Oh and the quasi-official answer (diligently repeated by some of the fanboys here): "Go and buy a new laptop"!

 

Well gentlemen, even if I were mad enough to buy Lenovo again, which one would I buy if I wanted SATA-300? Every ThinkPad on lenovo.com supports SATA-300, at least in the specs.

 

But what models are crippled and what models aren't? W series probably isn't crippled, what about X, T and R series? And why do I even have to ask myself this question if they all have the suitable hardware, for God's sake?

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-13, 22:20 PM

wrote:

I'm saying: No real need to have 3 Gbit/s on a T61.

My T61 is running fast enough with a WD Scorpio Black 320 GB disk and this disk is holding 233 GB at the moment.

 

X25-M read speed alone might be limited to something close to ~150 MByte/s by SATA-150 on the T61, but not crippled.

A SSD attached to SATA-150 on your T61 is still fast enough overall, faster than any existing 2.5 inch notebook disk drive.

 

Cheers

Message Edited by MacX on 05-13-2009 11:55 PM

 

If you are considering pay almost at half the price I get for my Acer vs T61 with same processor, same chipset, same 320G SATA2 WD disk. You will find the different between the 2. Noticeable by just to feel it. Do not required any benchmark to proof it.

 

By then, you will know what you have missed with your T61 !

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-13, 22:33 PM
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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-14, 1:57 AM

chanseng wrote:

 

If you are considering pay almost at half the price I get for my Acer vs T61 with same processor, same chipset, same 320G SATA2 WD disk. You will find the different between the 2. Noticeable by just to feel it. Do not required any benchmark to proof it.

 

By then, you will know what you have missed with your T61 !


I recently kitted out a T61 and HP 6910p with the same model WD Scorpio Black 320GB drive,  The laptops have the same OS, same memory etc.


There is NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER in perceived or benchmarked disk drive performance between the two systems.

 

Cheers,

 

Bill 

 

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12-20-2008

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-14, 7:19 AM

unless you are using the new SSD drives, there is no way you can constantly and fully saturate the SATAI channel using the current stock of platter hdd for laptops available in the market.

 

Unless WD have been giving out new platter hdd that has yet been developed.

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04-28-2009

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-14, 7:46 AM

look at this review

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/256gb-samsung-ssd,2265-2.html
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11-20-2007

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-14, 10:50 AM

The reason there are some suggestions to buy a new laptop comes from the fact people have went out and bought a modern, cutting edge SSD and then complain that a Thinkpad designed in early 2007 will not provide full SATA II speed. It doesn't matter if you bought your T61 last week it was still designed over 2 years ago. If you want 2009 performance you need to use 2009 equipment, not 2007.

If Lenovo was able to fix this with a simple BIOS update it would probably have been done by now.

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