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05-14-2009

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-14, 22:14 PM

I paid $2500 for my T61p on June 2008.  It came with 64GB SSD and T9500 CPU. 

However, its build uality is worse than the old T42p.

 

I use T61p for engineering simulation.  I would like to upgrade my SSD to an Intel X25-e

but I am afraid this SATA300 issue will limit its performance.  The drive speed is more important

than the CPU speed for me.  What is your suggestion if I buy a new laptop today for
engineering simulation? I will not buy another Lenovo for sure.

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-14, 22:27 PM
The reason people expect their T60's and T61's to support sata300, is because Lenovo listed as a capability of each of these notebooks. I know this because I read it on their website, in the Tabook and I call and ask Lenovo. All these sources confirmed that my T60p(about as high end as you could get when i purchased it) supported sata300. If you can find the Tabook from May 06 you can read it also. Solid state drives did exist they were just ridiculously expensive. The reason I sought sata300 when I purchased my T60p was the expectation that I would still be using it when ssd's became affordable. I and others were completely hosed by Lenovo. If there was a reasonable was to extract some penalty from Lenovo i would use it. I plan to replace my T60p later this year and Lenovo will start that evaluation process at a huge disadvantage because I hate getting cheated.
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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-15, 8:43 AM

let's be rational (edited)

 

X25-M read throughput alone might be limited to something close to ~130 MByte/s with SATA-150 on the T61, but no way crippled, considering the X25-M might do ~220 MByte/s on SATA-300 controller.

T61 owners report close to ~130 MByte/s max. read throughput with X25-M.


You will still have excellent read throughput on your T61. 

 

X25-M write throughput does not come up to ~150 MByte/s anyway.

 

Also, think of those minimal access times of a X25-M - with SATA-150.

 

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-15, 12:28 PM

Hi.  I'm new here.  Now I know that my T61 6465CT can't handle 3 gb/sec.  Can you folks help me choose an upgrade for the 100 GB 7200 RPM drive that came with my T61?  I'm looking for more than 100 GB.

 

Lenovo says their 320GB 7200 RPM drive, part # 43N3411, is "compatible."  But, it's expensive ($150) and presently out of stock.  Is there a 320 GB or larger drive, 7200 RPM, that's *not* made by Lenovo and will be compatible?  I've looked around, and mostly what I've seen are 3 gb/sec drives.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-15, 15:16 PM
one more question: what happens if I install a 3 gb/sec drive?  will it work at all?
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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-15, 15:27 PM

Hi - most SATA-300 hd drives can be jumpered to force SATA-150 (check drive manuals)

 

Western Digital Scorpio Black WD3200BJKT - 7200 rpm - runs in my T61 7659 - jumpered 150 Mbyte/s - no worries - good perf

Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD3200BEVT - 5400 rpm - jumper can be set

Samsung Spinpoint M6 HM320JI - 5400 rpm - interface is SATA-150 - used to have this one in my T61 - perf ok

 

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-15, 23:59 PM

majormajor wrote:
one more question: what happens if I install a 3 gb/sec drive?  will it work at all?

 

Yes, it will work fine.  The T61 supports the SATA v2 command set including NFQ, but tranfers data at SATA v1 rates. 

 

A SATA v2 compliant drive will automatically adjust its transfer rate up to a maximum of 3.0 Gbps, however, there are no single rotational drives that can achieve real sustained data transfers even at the maximum SATA v1 transfer rates (1.5 Gbps).

 

Cheers,


Bill

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-16, 9:41 AM

Another fast ATA-300 HDD: Seagate Momentus 7200.4 500 GB

Forum member and T61 owner Pedrogaris had to set the SATA-150 jumper to get the HDD running in his Ultrabay.

One should pay attention to this when using SATA-300 drives in the Ultrabay.

 

http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=T_Series_Thinkpads&thread.id=33996&page=2

 

The Momentus 7200.4 is a high performer.

SATA-300 drives should perform autonegotiation - in rare cases this does not work properly.

Message Edited by MacX on 05-16-2009 11:43 AM
Message Edited by MacX on 05-16-2009 11:52 AM
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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-16, 11:04 AM

MacX wrote:

 

The Momentus 7200.4 is a high performer.

SATA-300 drives should perform autonegotiation - in rare cases this does not work properly.


The initial release of 7200.4 interface drives are showing up a variety of issues on multiple platforms.


Cheers,

 

Bill

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-05-16, 13:24 PM

As a matter of fact, I too decided on the Seagate Momentus 7200.4 500 gb ($149 at Newegg for oem drive), and am getting the ultrabay adaptor for it ($49 at Newegg).  I kept a couple of Seagate jumpers from an old drive, so setting the new one to 1.5 gb/sec should be no problem (if I have the correct size jumper). 

 

Thanks for your help, folks.  I hope to do the upgrade this week.  I'll let you know how it goes.

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