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02-19-2010

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Re: T61 with Advanced Dock and PCI-e graphics card?

2010-02-19, 0:28 AM

Just went through several testing with several graphic cards with my T60 (T2400 1.83ghz, 2.5GB ram, ATI X1300 internal V-card) and the advanced dock. Tested with XP pro SP3.

 

1st attempt with XFX ATI HD5450, does not work. I think the BIOS does not support. After install & reboot, the display just does not show up.

 

2nd attempt with XFX ATI HD 4650, work like a charm :).I did a test with Dream fall, a game I could only run smoothly at 1280x768 if using the X1300 internal card. With the XFX HD4650, cranked it up to 1920x1080, with in game highest graphic setting, still smooth.

 

3rd attempt with  Palit Nvidia Geforce 210, does not work. Same problem with 1st try.

 

I notice that both the failure cards have HDMI support. The one that work only support DVI & VGA. It mights be that the advanced dock could not support HDMI, and graphic card with HDMI won't work.

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Re: T61 with Advanced Dock and PCI-e graphics card?

2010-05-31, 13:27 PM

Any thoughts on whether the issue mostly pertains to thinkpads with a "real" gfx and that eg. the xfx radeon 5450 WOULD work for me since my t61 only has intel gma 3100?

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12-20-2008

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Re: T61 with Advanced Dock and PCI-e graphics card?

2010-05-31, 22:31 PM

 


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Any thoughts on whether the issue mostly pertains to thinkpads with a "real" gfx and that eg. the xfx radeon 5450 WOULD work for me since my t61 only has intel gma 3100?


this is the problem with the dock, you would need to mod (upgrade the PSU) to get the dock to run a higher end graphics card, but the PCIe slot on the dock is only 1x speed. I would suggest that you get the Vidock instead (provided you have an expresscard slot handy). 

 

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Re: T61 with Advanced Dock and PCI-e graphics card?

2010-05-31, 22:49 PM

yearh, those are pretty nice but I am on a really tight budget these days (finishing my masters degree) and I already have the advanced dock.

The Vidock costs 350 euro incl an ati 4670 but I can get the 4350 mentioned in my post for merely 40 euro and the 5450 for 60.

Now, I had the fireGL working fine until I "baked" it, so I assume that some cards DO infact have a low enough powerconsumption,..

At the link below it is posited that the 4350 only uses 25w, can this be trusted and if so, is it viable to assume that the 4550 also has a consumption far enough below the 50w to be useable?  http://www.tweaktown.com/news/10230/amd_hd_4350_boasts_25w_power_consumption/index.html

 

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Re: T61 with Advanced Dock and PCI-e graphics card?

2010-06-01, 0:39 AM

4350 is a low end card, so it is entirely plausible that maximum power draw is around 25 watt mark. 

 

Google DIY Vidock, you can make one yourself.

 

Also, this may help with your project.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo-ibm/445295-guide-getting-radeon-5770-working-advanced-dock.html

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Re: T61 with Advanced Dock and PCI-e graphics card?

2010-06-01, 12:20 PM

hmm ok, if I had had an external powersuply lying around I would have started the pci-riser mod project right away :)

I will definately build something like this or maybe rather the DYI-vidock, alas, I am very pressed on time at the moment.

In the end my original question remains.

I don't mind going with a low-end card until I have time for the DYI project, so any help would be appreciated as to the original question of how much power the 4550 and 5450 draws, and if they will work driverwise on my setup :)

ATM, I am working with my slow intel GMA 3100, using  Premiere, photoshop and a little wow and I am rather certain that even the 4350 will provide a nice performance boost compared to that)

EDIT: just found a a page at sapphiretech that claims that their 4550 draws 25w at max load, should I trust this? 

http://www1.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=260

Also found a test that measures the 5450 to only 17ish watts at max load, can this really be?

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,704313/Radeon-HD-5450-Cedar-review-The-ideal-HTPC-DirectX-11-graphics-card/Reviews/

If both these claims are correct, then all 3 cards should live up to the powerdemands.

As such the 5450 would be the obvious choice as it sports directX11 and such,  anything I haven't thought about? :)

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Re: T61 with Advanced Dock and PCI-e graphics card?

2010-06-02, 0:18 AM

The 3450 card i got was drawing something like 30 watts max, so the new 5450 should draw around 17 watts given the improvements in the GPU architecture and shrinking in die and fabrication process. 

 

I got some different view on how much 4550 draws, some people have said around 30 watts and some people have stated less. The best thing is for you to ask the manufacturer of the cards, since they would know more about these things than us.

 

 

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12-13-2009

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Re: T61 with Advanced Dock and PCI-e graphics card?

2010-07-01, 16:07 PM

Sadly, this thread seems to have dried up.

 

I have a T61p with the Advanced Dock (2503) and have successfully used it running Win XP with low-end EVGA video card (7200gs) with 2 external displays plus the laptop LCD.  Naively, I upgraded the system bios and converted to Windows 7, and now the system won't load drivers for both the Quaddro 140m and the 7200gs simultaneously.  Device manager reports there's a resource conflict. If I set the bios to use the PCI card as the primary video, we get 3 beeps and the system fails to boot.

 

Any news on other video cards that work in this dock?  I'm not willing to invest my time in a hardware hack.

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12-17-2007

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Re: T61 with Advanced Dock and PCI-e graphics card?

2010-07-01, 20:22 PM

I run a T61P with a Matrox QID card.  I understand that any card that is happy with PCIe x1 and doesn't draw too much power should work.  Recently I have added a vidock 2 with ATI HD4670 card so now I can use 6 screens at once.  The vidock 2 runs off the expresscard slot on the laptop itself.

 

I find the vidock with 4670 a little slow but it is workable.  It is driving two screens - one 2560 x 1600 and the other set to 1024 x 768.

 

If you are having trouble with the advanced dock you might look at the vidock 2.

 

I am running XP on my T61P.  I was thinking of giving windows 7 a go if I upgrade to a T500 which I believe is the best laptop available for the advanced dock.

 

I never had any success getting my laptop screen to work at the same time as the 4 screens off the Matrox so in the end I settled for 4 for a long while.

 

When I boot in the dock I don't even see my Quadro adapter in Device Manager.

T61P WUXGA NVidia Quadro FX 570M Graphics T7800 @ 2.60GHz XP SP2 2gb RAM Advanced Doc Matrox QID LP PCIe
T42P UXGA 2373 KXM Old advanced dock with PCI with Matrox 4 monitor card A31P UXGA - 2 UltraBay Ports!
A21P UXGA PIII 850MHz 770ED 233MHz 760ED 133MHz - my first Thinkpad Compaq LTE Lite - My first laptop
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12-17-2007

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Re: T61 with Advanced Dock and PCI-e graphics card?

2010-07-01, 23:23 PM

So would it be possible to add an HD5870 with an external power supply?  At what stage does the speed of the Bus lead to diminishing returns?

T61P WUXGA NVidia Quadro FX 570M Graphics T7800 @ 2.60GHz XP SP2 2gb RAM Advanced Doc Matrox QID LP PCIe
T42P UXGA 2373 KXM Old advanced dock with PCI with Matrox 4 monitor card A31P UXGA - 2 UltraBay Ports!
A21P UXGA PIII 850MHz 770ED 233MHz 760ED 133MHz - my first Thinkpad Compaq LTE Lite - My first laptop
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