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12-07-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-11, 5:01 AM
10/7/2007
 
I know there is some speculation on when these laptops were assembled.  Not sure if mine falls inside that date range.
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12-05-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-11, 8:42 AM
I got mine on Nov. 1
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I'm really appreciate for all of your inputs. For those who have problems, that including myself, please be calm and let's deal with this in an appropriate manner. After all, we are all trying to have this issue resolve as soon as possible. Since more and more people are noticing the problem, I'm sure it will be addressed one way or the other. Someone has already sent his T61P to Lenovo's enigeering lab for diagnose, we are waiting for the results. I will keep you guys posted.
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First of all, no need for calling names.
Second, that's not a solution for this problem, is that? We paid for the whole laptop and I think thinkvantage is part of the deal? It's not even a compatibity issue. In addition, the hardware issue has not been ruled out yet.
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And I think the reason for me to start this thread is to get more inputs from other users and helping to solve the problem. I think that will be a win win situation for both Lenovo and their consumers. I think I stated point clearly.

Mod edit - combined multiple subsequent posts into one post for clarity. For future knowledge, please click the "Options" menu in the upper-right corner of our post and choose "Edit Message" if you would like to add more and are not responding to someone else. Thanks!


Message Edited by Tim_Lenovo on 12-11-2007 01:34 PM
T61P/7800 2.6G/4G RAM/NV Quadro FX 570M/160G 7200 rpm/WSXGA+/Intel Turbo Memory/Intel Wireless AGN/Vista Ultimate
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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-11, 11:22 AM
@snakejw:
I am not a mod, but is it really necessary to start a new post every time? Right here you posted 4 messages in a row!
It would be much better if you Edit your message.
At the top, right of your message, click on Options and select Edit Message.
Then add/change whatever you want, and Submit the changed message.
It will keep the thread much more compact to read. (We are not here to add messages/posts to get high system counters).
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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-11, 8:53 AM
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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-11, 8:57 AM
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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-11, 9:05 AM
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12-12-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-12, 17:31 PM
After reading all of the threads on this issue (and experiencing the same problem) I went out and bought a 2Gb stick of RAM for my brand new T61p (all works perfectly now)
 
Are new owners supposed to register somewhere with Lenovo to be contacted if they can resolve the issue?
 
Paying for another set of RAM for what is a pretty expensive laptop in the first place was not exactly what I had in mind, but don't relish having to ship my brand new laptop back to the USA for weeks until a solution is found.
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12-05-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-12, 18:09 PM
Hi all, I finally got to these forums! 
 
My 2 cents:  I had this issue as well with my T61P but after receiving a replacement, I can't seem to cause any of the crashes I was having before.  When I first bought my original T61P I purchased a larger hard drive and did a clean install of Vista.  When I received the replacement T61P, I simply placed this same hard drive in the new machine, and when running the same programs and games, the laptop no longer has any instability issues or crashes. 
 
The same goes for the RAM, I purchased 4 gigs of RAM separately from the laptop, and this same RAM that experienced crashes in the old machine, works perfectly in the new machine.

The new laptop is the same as the old one in every relevant way, same motherboard and everything relevant (though different LCD screen and keyboard), so I think this issue is limited to some small percentage of T61P's that were made. 
 
I'm sure curious though what the exact issue was!  I hope Lenovo is able to determine what caused the issue some of us had.  It is great that they fixed the problem for me but the curiosity still gets me, I would love to know what the problem was lol...
T61p, T7800 CPU, Nvidia Quadro FX 570M GPU, WSXGA+ LDC, 4GB RAM, 200GB HDD, Intel 4965AGN wireless, 1GB Intel Turbo Memory, Vista Business 64bit
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12-13-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-13, 0:44 AM
 
Phew!  thought it was only me experiencing this problem until I found this forum.
 
I'm also on a brand new T61p  purchased on 13th October and Shipped on 28 November 2007.
 
15.4"
2.2 ghz T7500 core 2 duo
160gb 7200rpm drive
4 gb Ram (but the OS will only run up to 3 gb if it's 32bit)
Vista Ultimate 32bit
Nvidia Quadro 570m 256mb - Lenovo Driver version 7.15.11.5666 dated: 9/28/07
 
I have the latest windows updates and thinkvantage system updates.
 
Strange thing is I can play Command and Conquer 3 fine.
 
I've experienced Crashes or Freezes or most of the time it will just flat out shut down the computer which can't be a good thing for the drive.
 
Age of Empires III - crashes or powers off the computer during play.
Call of Duty 4 -  same thing...plays for a few minutes and then the computer just powers off in mid play.
 
It also seems to be happening with less and less game time....like it's getting worse.
 
 
I'm not a happy camper right now.  :smileysad:
 
 
 UPDATE 1:   I've ran PC-Doctor scan and no problems.  I have the latest PC-Doctor according to system update.  v5.00.4565.09

I'm hoping that the solution will just be a driver update from Lenovo.  I really don't want to have to ship it back to the states.  sheesh.


UPDATE 2:  I've tried running 3D Mark 05 and BurnInTest 5.3  and no crashes of any kind.
I will try the bios change on the video card from internal to pci-express as suggested and see what happens.

Also, wierd thing is I played Call of Duty 4 last night in single player mode for the first time and no crashes. 







Message Edited by ThinkP on 12-14-2007 03:46 PM

T61P - 6459-CTO - T7500 2.2Ghz - 4G DDR2 RAM - NV Quadro FX 570M 256mb - 160G 7200 rpm - WSXGA+ 15.4" - Vista Ultimate 32bit
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12-05-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-13, 7:50 AM
Well if it makes you feel better, in my case the problem did seem to get worse over time, and by the time I sent it to the depot, it was so bad that the computer would crash immediately if I tried to run a game.  However, I have used a different T61P that would occasionally crash or power off while playing the same games, but not always.  Some days you could play games for hours, other days it would crash right away.  There didn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.
 
I sent it to the depot and they were initially going to just replace my motherboard and CPU but there were some other problems besides this issue, and they ended up just giving me a new laptop.  The new one has not crashed yet even once, playing the same games as before.  In fact it hasn't done anything I can complain about, it has worked really well.  I even installed more games than before, and set up another partition and put Linux on it and tried some games in Linux.  Everything works great now.
 
Also if it makes you feel better, I have heard the same reports of "everything works perfectly" from 3 other T61P owners who were having this same issue, sent it to the depot, and the depot replaced their motherboard and sent it back to them.

The unfortunate thing is that at least a couple people have reported having sent their laptop to the depot, getting the motherboard replaced, and still having problems.  I believe it is possible to get a motherboard from the depot that has the same problems or other just as bad problems.  Now that this issue is becoming more widely know, I hope the depot will implement stricter quality control to make sure they don't replace any more defective boards with another equally defective board :) 

IMO once you get your laptop fixed and working properly it will be worth the trouble, it's a very nice machine.

EDIT:  That's funny about Command & Conquer 3 working for you, I own that game too and if I remember correctly, it didn't crash much if at all, I'm not sure it even crashed once.  Most of my crashes were from BioShock, Battlefield 2, PC Burn-In 3D graphics test, Unreal Tournament 2004, but more than anything Bioshock would cause crashes reliably and quickly, but not crash at all if I removed one stick of RAM. 

Message Edited by Hellbore on 12-13-2007 01:01 AM
T61p, T7800 CPU, Nvidia Quadro FX 570M GPU, WSXGA+ LDC, 4GB RAM, 200GB HDD, Intel 4965AGN wireless, 1GB Intel Turbo Memory, Vista Business 64bit
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