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12-19-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-21, 11:59 AM
my serial is VF12878S0BV, and have problem too.
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12-05-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-21, 12:38 PM
motherboard serial number all over the places... not something that obvious then.
 
Looking at the Hardware Ids for the QFX 570M (Device Manager) is Rev A1 the only known one?
 
the full strings are:
\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_040C&SUBSYS_20D97AA&REV_A1
\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_040C&CC_030000
 
 
 
interestingly when using GPU-Z (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/SysInfo/GPU-Z/) the Revision appears to be A2
 


Message Edited by abarbieri on 12-21-2007 04:41 AM
T61p - 15.4" - T7700 - FX 570M 256MB - 4GB RAM - ST916023AS - 4965AGN - BT - FPR - 9 cell - Vista Ult. x86
T21p - 14" - PIII 850MHz - S3 Savage/IX 8MB - 512MB RAM - 100GB 7200rpm - WinXP x86
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12-20-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-21, 15:08 PM
Actually, the double stacked memories itself could passed the test, and video card with single stacked memories works fine too.
 
The problem only happen with double stacked memories and video together. Will that means the problem is caused by the cooperation between video and double stacked memories. The only thing I can think of is turbocache used by the video chip, which uses the system memories when it needs.
 
I hope this could narrow the problem down.
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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-21, 15:31 PM
sorry raymentech to shoot down your double stacked memory modules hypothesis...
 
I am experiencing the issues with single stacked memory modules (Patriot paired ones, PSD24G667SK).
T61p - 15.4" - T7700 - FX 570M 256MB - 4GB RAM - ST916023AS - 4965AGN - BT - FPR - 9 cell - Vista Ult. x86
T21p - 14" - PIII 850MHz - S3 Savage/IX 8MB - 512MB RAM - 100GB 7200rpm - WinXP x86
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12-13-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-21, 18:44 PM

On my Thinkpad 6459-CTO  has 2x 2gb sticks = 4gb   without Turbo Memory. 

 I never opted for that feature in my purchase because I did hear of issues with it prior to ordering on other sites.  But little did I know there would be other problems with the Memory Controller or BUS on the motherboard.

 
works fine with one slot no crashing whatsoever...

tested playing  Call of Duty 4 this week on Monday - Wednesday with 6 hours straight of play time everyday with no crashes and I never rebooted the computer for 3 days during play.. ... that would not be the case with both sticks in.  And I haven't updated to the latest BIOS yet.


EDIT:  although it still crashes the nvidia driver with 1 stick on the rare occassion.  this happened with 2 sticks also more often.




Message Edited by ThinkP on 12-21-2007 08:27 PM

T61P - 6459-CTO - T7500 2.2Ghz - 4G DDR2 RAM - NV Quadro FX 570M 256mb - 160G 7200 rpm - WSXGA+ 15.4" - Vista Ultimate 32bit
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12-21-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-21, 19:27 PM
Hi

I can also confim the same, I have had almost all the above
mentioned problems (BSOD, freezes and many shutdowns)
when playing different games, like e.g. stalker.  It even happened
in less graphics intense games like civ4...

I have tried at least 10 different drivers, without any noticable
difference.

After reading this thread I today switched from 2 x 1 GB to 1 x 2GB
memory sticks and the problems seem to have disappeared: no freezes,
no crashes, no artifacts and no shutdowns...

I just stopped playing stalker on 1920x1200 resolution, which would
have crashed almost instantly before.

My system is T61p / 6460-6YG / T7500

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12-21-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-21, 21:20 PM
As I wrote on Thinkad forum I have the same issue with system shutdown in 3D application. I have two 2GB memory modules on my T61p. With these 2 modules every game I have crashes almost immediately (Air Conflicts, MotoGP 07, Sega Rally). Also volume buttons don't work.
After removing one memory module everything is OK. Even volume buttons work.
System board serial number is VF19X7AX051.


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12-19-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-22, 19:17 PM
Just to confirm, I do NOT have the graphics problem.
T61p, 15.4", 4GB OCZ ram, 200gb 7k200, Vista Ultimate x64 (clean build). SP1RC applied
Intel Robson (Turbomem v1013 drivers).
Motherboard serial - VF12978E139
Nvidia driver rev: Lenovo Windowsupdate v156.85
Bios 2.07
I can run the Crysis benchmark, PCMark 2006, Civ4, Tabula Rasa, EQ2, all without problems. I had huge stability issues in general with the Lenovo Turbomem drivers (v1004), but 1013 cleared them up. Note that the 1013 driver actually flashes the firmware on the Robson chip..its not just a driver upgrade.
 
 
 
 
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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-23, 1:25 AM
Mark, Is there someone from Lenovo company reading on this forum? Why bother trying to find out how to solve our problems by ourselves? The simplest way is to test bad motherboards which was replaced and see what the problems are and share with the community here.

My t61p was ordered in US, manufactured in China on October 26th and I received it on November 6th. Since then I have done everything to make it run properly. I even downgraded to XP Pro (clean install), last BIOS, etc. I am using this machine for 3D medical stuff and I have problems. I thought my programs run bad. The only way is to use one RAM module or one core. Now I am angry freezing in the middle of my work and decided today to return to my old self-made desktop.

If Lenovo cares about us then why not posting here their suggestions? Why not contacting us to solve our problems by sending us new functional notebooks. I have received a crippled ThinkPad. Why changing the motherboard?

Message Edited by Florian on 12-24-2007 01:06 AM
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12-23-2007

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Re: T61P Graphic problems--random shut down, BSOD, Crash

2007-12-23, 11:10 AM
Ack, I just hit the back button before posting, so there goes half an hour of typing... :smileysad:
 
anyway, I'm running a T60P, but I have a lot of the same issues as the t61/t61p
 
what happens:
mem/parity error BSOD's (rarely)
error with ati2dvag.dll... something about an infinite loop... memory errory BSD (really common)
hanging - but it's really weird:
a) current frame freezes, mouse locks up, sounds loops, eventual BSOD follows
b) display is still on, but it's black, but the sound still works, sometimes results in BSOD
 
when it happens:
just happened today, when it was doing nothing at all... just sitting there
only once so far, but when I was running word 2007 (?)
mainly though, when anything graphically intensive is running, whether this be games (World In Conflict, Crysis Demo) or something of a more workstationish orientation (SketchUp, Blender, Softimage XSI), DX or OGL alike....
I'm assuming it's an ever looming error, only amplified by graphically intense activities.
 
where it happens:
t60P
2.33 GHz Core Duo    (Intel Chipset 945GM)
Win XP
1x2gig SoDIMM
ATI Mobility FireGl V5200
 
 
I know I'm running an older T60P, but the similarities in the errors are remarkably... similar
As far as solutions go, I know that about 6 months/1 year ago, when I first got my T60P, I started searching the forums for possible solutions... Mainly, people thought it was either an overheating issue or a driver issue. Since most of the proposed ideas seemed to involve softmodding/flashing the bios, I decided not to try and void my warranty. I did try installing different drivers, but nothing worked. I opted back to the factory installation, which was the most stable build.
 
After snooping around the forums today, I caught up on the more recent issues with the T61/T61P, and got a few ideas...
If it seems to be the mobo/memory/gpu angst, even though I think I'm running one single stacked ram chip, I'm going to try to switch out for one that I know isn't double stacked.
 
Past that, I heard mention of a possible bios issue, where it may be necessary to disable the dual core functionality. I'll try removing the functionality via the bios, next.
 
Either way, having only one ram slot available or turning off half of my processing power, isn't very exciting.
 
If anyone knows of any solutions, I'd be grateful. Also, if Mark knows how lenovo handled the T60P product line issues, it would be great to know of my options.
 
anyway, this will have to wait to tomorrow morning, as it's now 5:00 am... ugh
 
edit: Alright, I disabled the dual core functionality, and while it seemed to be more stable, it still crashed in the end. I should try to test it a little bit more thoroughly to see if I was really lucky, or if it actually did help some.
 
Oh, and something I find funny - when I initially thought it might be a faulty driver/overtaxed gpu that were causing the errors, I decided to revert back to playing older games such as solitaire, freecell, diablo II etc... While freecell and solitaire fortunately don't cause any problems, I simply cannot play diablo II for any practical ammount of time, because whenever I had two of the menu's open (accessing your chest's inventory and your inventory at the same time) it would automatically crash... and I know that it's not over taxing the graphical limit of my gpu.


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