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T61p Choices - WUXGA but no Wireless N Vs WSXGA+ & Works

2008-04-13, 2:32 AM
I need a new Thinkpad to replace a T41p. Prices have come down (for Australia) so I'm leaning towards a T61p .... I just can't make up my mind which one. I currently have a T60 15" with 1400x1050 Flexview/X1400 which I have been very happy with.

I have 3 choices. All come with the following
2GB RAM (2 x 1 GB), 256MB nVIDIA Quadro FX 570M, CDRW/DVDRW, Bluetooth, 9c Li-Ion, WinVista Ultimate

Option 1
64585KM - T7700(2.4GHz), 100GB 7200rpm, 5.4" WUXGA 1920x1200, 3 year Express Warranty
AU$2200
Pro's WUXGA Screen, 3 Years Express Warranty, Cheapest
Con's No Wireless N, Only 100GB Hard Disk, WUXGA Screen (will ppi been to much?)

Option 2
6459A12 - T7500(2.2GHz), 160GB 7200rpm, 15.4" WSXGA+ 1680x1050, 1 year Depot Warranty
AU$2299
Pro's Wireless N, 2nd Cheapest
Con's 1 Year Depot Warranty, Slowest CPU

Option 3
6459A24 - T9300(2.5GHz Penryn), 200GB 7200rpm, 15.4" WSXGA+ 1680x1050, 1 year Depot Warranty + Free 120GB External USB HD.
AU$2799
Pro's Fastest CPU, Wireless N, 200GB Hard Disk
Con's 1 Year Depot Warranty, Most Expensive

For me the decision is really between Option 1 (the best value) and the 3rd (newest & fastest/biggest technology) I'm trying to decide with not much luck.

I currently have a T60 15" with 1400x1050 Flexview which I am very happy with. I must admit to being slightly nervous about the WUXGA panel and the ppi ratio. The WSXGA panel resolution is closer to the current ppi of my T60.

If I could decide positively about the WUXGA panel then Option 1 makes the most sense as I am only losing 0.1 GHz, 2MB Cache, 100MB hard disk, "Free" 120GB USB and Wireless N but gaining 3 years Express Warranty (worth about AU$350), 31% extra screen area and saving another AU$600. So all up the difference is marginal.

Does anyone have any input to assist my decision making?

Cheers

Aaron
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01-05-2008

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Re: T61p Choices - WUXGA but no Wireless N Vs WSXGA+ & Works

2008-04-14, 13:55 PM
Before I add my comments, please advise:  is NZ (the way Canada was until very late last year) simply selling a limited set of configurations?  Or is NZ (the way Canada is now) selling a customer tailored configuration and these are the three configurations you have tailored on your own?
 
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Re: T61p Choices - WUXGA but no Wireless N Vs WSXGA+ & Works

2008-04-14, 13:57 PM
I just noticed that your handle says "kiwi" but your address shows you're in New Zealand's west island (<grin>).
 
The question still stands, though:  are you selecting from a list of preconfigured machines or are these configurations you have specifically chosen?
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Re: T61p Choices - WUXGA but no Wireless N Vs WSXGA+ & Works

2008-04-14, 18:09 PM
I find WUXGA on a 15.4" screen is a bit too much... 1680x1050 is about the max for me.  Others swear by 1920x1200, so it really is a matter of personal preference. 
 
You should see if you can't go look at a laptop with that screen resolution before commiting to it.
 
And if someone tells you "you can always reset the size of the fonts if they appear too small at 1920x1200", take that advice with a grain of salt... while windows has had that option for many generations, they still haven't worked pout all the kinks - many programs are still being written expecting that all the size ratios of windows, fonts, etc are fixed, and when you tinker with them, odd things can occur.  You SHOULD be able to adjust these things, but in practice it still isn't ready for prime time.
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Re: T61p Choices - WUXGA but no Wireless N Vs WSXGA+ & Works

2008-04-14, 18:25 PM
"I need a new Thinkpad to replace a T41p. Prices have come down (for Australia) so I'm leaning towards a T61p .... I just can't make up my mind which one. I currently have a T60 15" with 1400x1050 Flexview/X1400 which I have been very happy with."
 
I'm little a confused.  Are you trying to replace a T41p or a T60?
 
Either way, I think the best question to ask yourself is, "What are the aspects of your current laptop that are no longer satisfactory?"
 
Once you have some points for that, then choose a model which addresses them.  If you want more screen real-estate, then buy a higher resolution model, etc.
 
Just a few things to keep in mind:
 
- For the most part, a faster CPU does not improve things that most people consider "slow", particularly with laptops.  Things like boot-up/shutdown times, starting a particular program, or opening large files stand to gain very little with faster CPUs.
 
- Warranty is key for a laptop purchase.  Unlike desktops, fixing a problem with a laptop is nowhere near as easy/cheap once its out of warranty (or not covered in the first place).
 
- I agree with KEH that high resolution screens are counter productive, for the same reasons.


Message Edited by SirDankus on 04-14-2008 11:25 AM
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Re: T61p Choices - WUXGA but no Wireless N Vs WSXGA+ & Works

2008-04-14, 21:29 PM
Thanks for the replies.
 
I am choosing from pre-configured models. We have very few options for CTO in the APAC region.
 
Unfortunately all vendors are now out of stock of the WUXGA model. :smileysad:
 
The T41p is used by my daughter but is experiencing a growing list of problems. I currently have a T60 which I will pass to her to replace the T41p, and I will get a new Thinkpad.
 
I'm now leaning towards waiting for the new T400/T500's in mid year. I know I'll pay a premium compared to the discount prices for the T61p's available now but hopefully I won't have to take a chance on the variable quality of the WSXGA+ panels, and rest of the new technology appears promising too.

Also I'm leaning towards the 14" not 15.4" format so the T400 appeals so long as it has reasonable video performance.

Cheers
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Re: T61p Choices - WUXGA but no Wireless N Vs WSXGA+ & Works

2008-04-14, 22:37 PM
You're going to go with WUXGA on a 14" screen?  My eyeballs cringe...
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Re: T61p Choices - WUXGA but no Wireless N Vs WSXGA+ & Works

2008-04-14, 23:35 PM
Hi KEH
 
If you read my original post I was already concerned about the WUXGA screen on the 15.4" T61p. I got to see a colleague's Dell Latitude D830 with a WUXGA screen yesterday and it's definately too small for me.
 
I was leaning towards the WSXGA+ 1680x1050 on a 15.4" panel but I have been wary after all the negative reviews about the LCD panel quality.
 
If there is a T400 with either 4:3 SXGA+ (1400 x 1050) or 16:10 LCD with WSXGA (1440 x 900) I will consider those.

Cheers
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