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Re: T61p exhibiting 1 long and 2 short beep and black screen

2013-10-14, 16:41 PM

Thanks also, TuuS, for your advice.  Most appreciated.  

 

I bought the laptop for the power it would provide for gis maps routines.  However, the intel probably would've been sufficient for this purpose.  I wasn't aware of the option, at the time.  I like the idea that the intel is cooler.  Heat has been an issue with this laptop.  That is apparently the reason the graphic component finally balked.  I was able to  restore the screen the first time this happened, but since then it's stayed black.  I would prefer the cooler solution, to be sure.

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Re: T61p exhibiting 1 long and 2 short beep and black screen

2013-10-14, 17:28 PM

I neglected to note that there was no recall sent to me about this issue, when the company was actively pursuing the issue.  I suppose that's standard practice not to notify.  In any event, I was out of the loop, unaware of the issue that finally hit.

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Re: T61p exhibiting 1 long and 2 short beep and black screen

2013-10-14, 17:31 PM

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I neglected to note that there was no recall sent to me about this issue, when the company was actively pursuing the issue.  I suppose that's standard practice not to notify.  In any event, I was out of the loop, unaware of the issue that finally hit.


There never was an official recall...

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Re: T61p exhibiting 1 long and 2 short beep and black screen

2013-10-14, 19:52 PM

Yes, as my good friend George mentioned there was no recall, and the chips were never offically considered defective, but it was acknowleged that there was a higher than anticipated rate of failure. In comparison when looking at overall warranty claims, I'm told the gpu failures weren't even a drop in the bucket compared to things like harddrives, ram, batteries, hinges, etc, and as you noticed yours has lasted about 5 1/2 years. It would be nice to get 10years out of a part, but it doesn't always happen. I do think it's likely to get 10+ years from an Intel gpu, or even an nVidia chips from august 2008, but even they will die eventually.

 

As for your decision on how to fix this, the Intel graphics system will probably do anything you require of it. Most apps will recognise and make full use of this graphic system with the exception of games, some of which are written to support the intel graphics, but others are written exclusively for nVidia. On apps that use gpu hardware acceleration you may see a performance difference, but usually it's a non-issue for most users. Most users that run apps that require the fastest possible graphics end up replacing their computer every year or two. The same holds true with gaming as the most recent games won't run on any of the graphic options from 5 years ago. Overall for most useres Intel is the way to go. The Intel graphic system wasn't very common on the 15.4" models and even more uncommon if your system is equipped with a Penryn class cpu (T9xxx or T8xxx) chips. If you need help finding one you can send me a PM with your model, serial (don't post this in the public forum) and date code as well as the cpu model (if known), and I'll see what I can do. Also a word of caution if you're going to source a board online is to be careful you don't get a board pulled from scrap or abuse laptops. I've found the only reliable way to source boards is from complete corporate laptops. The cost is reasonable and they can be fully tested before pulled. If you do want to keep your nVidia graphics I may be able to source you one of the boards with the updated gpu chip too, but they seem to get scarce as the days pass. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: T61p exhibiting 1 long and 2 short beep and black screen

2013-10-15, 4:23 AM

That was exactly my point.  It was all hush-hush and under the radar.  No due diligence.  Par for the course.

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Re: T61p exhibiting 1 long and 2 short beep and black screen

2013-10-15, 4:38 AM

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Yes, as my good friend George mentioned there was no recall, and the chips were never offically considered defective, but it was acknowleged that there was a higher than anticipated rate of failure. In comparison when looking at overall warranty claims, I'm told the gpu failures weren't even a drop in the bucket compared to things like harddrives, ram, batteries, hinges, etc, and as you noticed yours has lasted about 5 1/2 years. It would be nice to get 10years out of a part, but it doesn't always happen. I do think it's likely to get 10+ years from an Intel gpu, or even an nVidia chips from august 2008, but even they will die eventually.

 

As for your decision on how to fix this, the Intel graphics system will probably do anything you require of it. Most apps will recognise and make full use of this graphic system with the exception of games, some of which are written to support the intel graphics, but others are written exclusively for nVidia. On apps that use gpu hardware acceleration you may see a performance difference, but usually it's a non-issue for most users. Most users that run apps that require the fastest possible graphics end up replacing their computer every year or two. The same holds true with gaming as the most recent games won't run on any of the graphic options from 5 years ago. Overall for most useres Intel is the way to go. The Intel graphic system wasn't very common on the 15.4" models and even more uncommon if your system is equipped with a Penryn class cpu (T9xxx or T8xxx) chips. If you need help finding one you can send me a PM with your model, serial (don't post this in the public forum) and date code as well as the cpu model (if known), and I'll see what I can do. Also a word of caution if you're going to source a board online is to be careful you don't get a board pulled from scrap or abuse laptops. I've found the only reliable way to source boards is from complete corporate laptops. The cost is reasonable and they can be fully tested before pulled. If you do want to keep your nVidia graphics I may be able to source you one of the boards with the updated gpu chip too, but they seem to get scarce as the days pass. 

 

 

 

 

 


Thanks,TuuS, for the additional advice.  I'll supply the details you need in a subsequent utterance, via PM, anon.

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Re: T61p exhibiting 1 long and 2 short beep and black screen

2013-10-22, 8:21 AM

Hi everyone,

 

I checked the first message but there are so many replies that I cannot seperate information from the thread, so:

 

I am facing this issue of 1 long and 2 short beeps with black screen. What are my options? I bought my T61p in 2007 fall (6 years old) so warrant has expired long time ago. They don't make these laptops with 1920x1200 anymore, so what would be the costs of having this fixed?

 

Also, I have no clue which part is faulty (LCD, Dimm or system board).

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Re: T61p exhibiting 1 long and 2 short beep and black screen

2013-10-22, 14:24 PM

wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I checked the first message but there are so many replies that I cannot seperate information from the thread, so:

 

I am facing this issue of 1 long and 2 short beeps with black screen. What are my options? I bought my T61p in 2007 fall (6 years old) so warrant has expired long time ago. They don't make these laptops with 1920x1200 anymore, so what would be the costs of having this fixed?

 

Also, I have no clue which part is faulty (LCD, Dimm or system board).


Try reading backwards from this point a couple of pages and you'll easily find your answer.

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Re: T61p exhibiting 1 long and 2 short beep and black screen

2013-10-23, 3:49 AM

I have a T61p purchased new from Lenovo.com build date January 2008. Just died with the 1 long 2 short beeps. Guess the GPU died. Thanks for nothing Lenovo. Teaches me to be sure to sell my Thinkpads after no more than 3 years.

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Re: T61p exhibiting 1 long and 2 short beep and black screen

2013-10-23, 4:14 AM

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I have a T61p purchased new from Lenovo.com build date January 2008. Just died with the 1 long 2 short beeps. Guess the GPU died. Thanks for nothing Lenovo. Teaches me to be sure to sell my Thinkpads after no more than 3 years.


Normally thinkpads last longer then any other laptop if properly cared for, but this specific issue was a problem with nVidia graphics processor. I understand and share your frustration, but it's nVidia I focus my anger at. 

 

Regarding your unit, the machines build in that era were the most volunterable to this problem unfortunately. The quality control gradually imporved at nVidia and the problem virtually ended at lenovo in July when they started using new gpu chips exclusively, so units with an August 2008 build date aren't effected. Unfortunately there are few of these because general production ended at the end of august. 

 

 

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