11-26-2009 01:36 PM
11-26-2009 01:41 PM
11-26-2009 02:36 PM
Thanks for the information. I would like to keep the EISA partition on the new drive as well. So did you use EASEUS Partition Master to clone your old hard drive including the EISA partition or just the partition? They
have another SW called TODO Back Up which seems to be good for upgrading from a smaller HDD to a bigger HDD including the partition.
11-27-2009 09:42 AM - edited 11-27-2009 09:46 AM
I plan to try cloning a HDD 100Go to a HDD 320Go this week end with EASUS and if it fails with CloneZilla. My objective is to have the EISA partition on the 320Go drive. Doing without is extremely simple. I'll intend to provide the results failed or success with a step by step so it could be usefull for other. In this forum and like in many other i've found plenty of good / usefull advise from other users who took the time to share their valuable knowledge. I reckon i ow this community the same.
TODO Back Up is EASUS http://www.todo-backup.com/
11-27-2009 04:40 PM
Thanks Calabrache. What HDD are you using? I placed an order for a scorpio black 320GB w/o freefall detection.
I will await your results first with clonezilla.
12-02-2009 11:15 AM - edited 12-02-2009 11:18 AM
Indeed, sorry smdmbguy
i replied earlier on (SUN) but must have done somehting wrong because the text has vanished...
So here we are
- easus did copy the partitions, both, but I could neither boot the OS not the R&R partition. I had done a Recovery disk before and used it to reinstall the R&R backup. Amazingly the service partition has been deleted during this installation... I reckon easus does copy the partition but this is not a real clone
- clonezilla, gparted, i failed, what indie has done is way way above my capacities...
- then came paragon-software the partition manager... 100% raw hard risk cloning. All cloned, all worked (provided you ask the system to be shut down after the copy) 100%, the rescue partition is operational and os boots... Very simple to use and include a suite of additionnal functionalities, resize, + recovery cd, etc...
I looked at three :
wd black scorpio
and hitachi travelstar.
I went through technical notes (i m not an expert) and found the wb and the hitachi were closed. Hitachi has a lower current consumption, lower latency and higher shock absorbtion. But minimal, as it was only 10$ more and the retailer had it in stock i settled for it (320Go)
Hope that helps Best regards
12-02-2009 02:39 PM
MPF: My reason for doing it this way was because I was after more than simply cloning the original disk. I wanted to change the partition layout so I could have a Linux /boot partition and use that in preference over NTLDR as it's more flexible. I also wanted to do a clean install of Windows from the Recovery partition to give it some more life back.
A simplified version of the method I described can be used to copy the Recovery partition and do a Factory Restore. Clonezilla only copies the files the files instead of sectors so it's much quicker to 'clone' as partition.
There's a special MBR used for RnR which allows you to access the Recovery partition, this has to be installed correctly or otherwise it won't start - I had numerious problems with this at first. It looks like it stores a few checksums in the MBR, from what I've seen from the RnR floppy disk, so this is one reason why it may fail to start.
It's really is quite easy to do using GParted/Clonezilla! If you're happy with using fdisk under Linux you could create the partition under Clonezilla instead.
Cloning the Recovery Partition
dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=62
Creating a bootable USB stick of rnr40.img with GRUB4DOS
title Boot rnr40.img map --mem (hd0,0)/rnr40.img (fd0) map --hook chainloader (fd0)+1 rootnoverify (fd0)
cd A:\PE bmgr /R bmgr /Fboot.bin /M2
I hope the above is slightly more clearer than my original post for the newbies.
12-03-2009 11:09 AM
indie: thanks for the additional details and specific instructions & links. I am afraid I am too insecure to chance my data (and any more time) with the free approach where I don't have enough understanding of what I am doing.
Calabrache: thanks for the update and on what was finally a succesful model. I will breakdown and buy the Paragon Partition Master software and do it over the weekend. One question: how did you resize the two partitions from the old disk onto the new one? proportionately? or did you keep the RnR as small as it had been? or something in between?
Thanks to all for their advice on this. It seemed so easy when I first ordered a new hard drive!
12-03-2009 02:45 PM
Actually i did not changed the service partition size. I use paragon partition manager (the uk site has sometime some week sales) to do a DISK copy, to which i ask to shut down the pc, do a RAW copy. Then when that was done, and that i could reboot i used again PPM to extend the second partition (not the service partition which PPM sees as non formated and which is about 700MB) to use the max space. I did not touch the service partition.
Don't worry it always seem so easy at first glance, devils hides in the details.
Also thanks for INDIE and his additional specs. (btw the virtual floppy link in the first message ends elsewhere)
Let me know if i can be of any further help