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Windows Vista on ThinkPad T60p?

I'm moving my work laptop (ThinkPad T60p) to my home laptop because my home laptop (Windows XP) has gotten too slow, but I have Windows 7 on it and I've had problems with some drivers or Lenovo software not working on it because it was never approved for it, but I'm not sure which version of Vista I should get on it.

 

Home? Professional? Ultimate? Is it best to get the highest version and then choose after that or can I not choose which one to install?

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Re: Windows Vista on ThinkPad T60p?

Hello,

 

I am not sure you would notice much difference in driver support between Microsoft Windows Vista and Microsoft Windows 7, but I don't have a ThinkPad T60p myself so am unable to say for certain how each driver would perform.  There's also the issue of when extended support ends.  For Vista it is 2017, for Windows 7 it is 2020.

 

The licenses are edition-specific, so if you got an "Ultimate Edition" or "Professional Edition" license you would not be able to use it to install a lesser version like "Home Starter Edition," however, you can use Windows Anytime Upgrade to upgrade some lesser editions to their more full-fledged versions.  Like Home Basic to Home Premium or to Ultimate.

 

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Aryeh Goretsky

 

 



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Re: Windows Vista on ThinkPad T60p?

I'm not asking about the difference in driver support between Vista and 7 because that doesn't matter, the issue is which version of Vista I should use. Lenovo released the laptop with Vista support (not sure which version) but not 7 support, so I expect Vista to work better period with drivers.

I understand the licenses, so I feel like you're getting off-track. The question is which version I should use for this laptop compatibility-wise (since Lenovo released the laptop at a certain time but I don't know if Vista versions were released or supported differently). If it doesn't matter, great.

I'm also having a hard time finding a descriptive difference of the features between Vista versions.
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Re: Windows Vista on ThinkPad T60p?

Good day.

 

I aplogize that I can't help you determine which version of Vista would be best, compatibility-wise, for your T60P. I went straight from WinXPPro to Win7Ultimate on my 2623-DDU, and have never looked back. The thing is rock-solid stable.

 

To answer your question about a comparison of Vista versions, please see the table in this thread on Microsoft Technet:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/6ac5099c-f63c-4bf4-9c8e-f51fe2589ae9/side-by-side-c...

It looks quite comprehensive.

 

Hope this helps a bit.

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Re: Windows Vista on ThinkPad T60p?

Hello.

 

I stay away from the Ultimate versions of both Vista and Win7, because when running those versions, you can't upgrade your OS including files and settings to the next version. Plus, the additional features included with the Ultimate versions are something very few actually use. Vista Business or Windows 7 Professional are the ways to go if you ask me.

 

That being said, I run Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit on my T60p, and it does so flawlessly. But 64 bit Vista Business and 7 Professional run just as well on it. The performance difference between Vista and 7 are neglible, but running Windows 7 will enable you to use Office 2013/365 and Internet Explorer 11, so if you are a Office user, you should go with Windows 7.

 

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Re: Windows Vista on ThinkPad T60p?

Hello,

 

For most device drivers, the differences between Windows Vista and Windows 7 are minimal, and a driver written for one usually works for the other.  Not always, but often enough it's good rule of thumb/heuristic, and the various driver developers out there generally have support for Windoes Vista in the latest version of their Windows 7 drivers.  Also, the edition of the operating system doesn't make a difference as far as the drivers go, either.  So, a driver for Windows Vista will install on Home, Business, Enterprise, Ultimate, etc.   Drivers interact with the operating system kernel, and that's the same across all editions.  The only differentiating factor is the "bittedness"  of the kernel (32-bit and 64-bit) and Vista drivers will be available for both.

 

As for which edition of Windows Vista to run, it largely depends on how the ThinkPad will be used.  For example, if you need to join a domain, Windows Vista Business (or Windows 7 Professional) would be appropriate.  For home use, I would learn toward Windows Vista Home Premium or Ultimate editions.  If you wish to use Bitlocker, Enteprise or Ultimate.

 

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Re: Windows Vista on ThinkPad T60p?

I'm a Vista fan, not that it is better than 7 because it's not, it is very similar and is also a very stable OS. It had a rough childhood and was abused by bullys...   because it was different and people didn't understand why it was asking for confirmation everytime you make a change that can alter the computer, and there were also many driver problems because Vista was the first end-user version that was fully 32bit and was also the first really stable 64bit version and the rest of the industry just wasn't ready and resisted dropping 16bit support. By the time the industry caught up, the bugs were worked out and everything was sailing smoothly microsoft introduced Seven and everyone broke out their wallets...   kinda left vista behind and still to this day I get ridiculed for praising Vista, but I do think it's a good option and you can buy a 2nd hand copy of Vista Business (professional) for about $20 in 32 or 64 bit, so why save a bunch of money and go with vista. Ultimate version will cost slightly more and if you have a reason for wanting that, then why not, but Business is the name used on the professional line for vista and is usually the best option. Home versions were usually offered in 32bit for vista but I've heard unconfirmed reports that you can use the key with 64bit. I can confirm that this works with vista and ultimate but for the home versions you'd have to confirm that yourself. I also believe the home versions are restrictive of how much ram you can use and although all the 32bit versions have the ability to use ram beyond 4gb, this technology was disabled by microsoft and it will break your activation if you enable it so if you want to use 4gb or more on 32bit you'll need one of the windows server edition, but the 64bit versions of Vista will take as much ram as you can throw at them. If I'm not mistaken the limit is 192gb for business, ultimate and enterprise and 16gb for home premium 64. 

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