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ThinkPad 10 discussion thread

2014-04-15, 4:54 AM

Quite a bit of information has surfaced recently regarding the ThinkPad 10, one of those leaks includes this one from Lenovo's webpage:

 

Lenovo Canada

 

 

ThinkPad 10 leaked specifications:

 

  • 10.1" 1920x1200 IPS display with active digitizer
  • Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
  • Intel Atom Z3795
  • 4GB RAM 
  • up to 128GB eMMC
  • WiFi 802.11 a/b/g/n, NFC, Bluetooth
  • front 2MP / rear 8MP camera
  • fingerprint scanner
  • microSD / microHDMI
  • proprietary Lenovo charging cable 
  • optional Wacom stylus
  • optional ultrabook keyboard dock
  • optional tablet dock
  • optional 4G LTE
  • optional quickshot cover

There will also be a lower cost model.

 

lenovo thinkpad 10 fcc_02


 

 

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Re: ThinkPad 10 discussion thread

2014-04-15, 6:33 AM

There's a big discussion thread going on over in the TabletPCreview forums:

 

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/lenovo-ibm/61970-lenovo-thinkpad-10-tablet.html

 

The main point of contention appears to be the high prices that Lenovo are expected to charge.

 

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/lenovo-ibm/61970-lenovo-thinkpad-10-tablet-3.html#post387484

 

[20C30008PB] ThinkPad 10 Tablet $725
Intel Atom Z3795, 2GB, 64GB, WiFi, 10.1 (16:10) WUXGA (1920X1200), Multitouch IPS, Graphite Black, Graphite Black, Win 8.1 with Office H&S, 1 Yr Carry-In, Li-Polymer Battery, 33 Wh, 802.11abgn, BT, Dedicated, USB 2.0x1, Camera 2 / 8 Mpix, Card Reader MicroSD

[20C1000WPB] ThinkPad 10 Tablet $885
Intel Atom Z3795, 2GB, 64GB, WiFi + WWAN, NFC, 10.1 (16:10) WUXGA (1920X1200), Multitouch IPS, Graphite Black, Graphite Black, LTE, Win 8.1 with Office H&S, 1 Yr Carry-In, Li-Polymer Battery, 33 Wh, 802.11abgn, BT, Dedicated, USB 2.0x1, Camera 2 / 8 Mpix, Card Reader MicroSD

[20C1001DPB] ThinkPad 10 Tablet $915
Intel Atom Z3795, 2GB, 64GB, WiFi, Digitizer & Pen, 10.1 (16:10) WUXGA (1920X1200), Multitouch IPS, Graphite Black, Graphite Black, Win 8.1 Pro, 1 Yr Carry-In, Li-Polymer Battery, 33 Wh, 802.11abgn, BT, Dedicated, USB 2.0x1, Camera 2 / 8 Mpix, Card Reader MicroSD

[20C1000RPB] ThinkPad 10 Tablet $1065
Intel Atom Z3795, 2GB, 64GB, WiFi + WWAN, NFC, Digitizer & Pen, 10.1 (16:10) WUXGA (1920X1200), Multitouch IPS, Graphite Black, Graphite Black, LTE, Win 8.1 Pro, 1 Yr Carry-In, Li-Polymer Battery, 33 Wh, 802.11abgn, BT, Dedicated, USB 2.0x1, Camera 2 / 8 Mpix, Card Reader MicroSD

[20C1000YPB] ThinkPad 10 Tablet $1150
Intel Atom Z3795, 2GB, 64GB, WiFi + WWAN, NFC, Digitizer & Pen, Thinkpad 10 Ultrabook Keyboard, 10.1 (16:10) WUXGA (1920X1200), Multitouch IPS, Graphite Black, Graphite Black, LTE, Win 8.1 Pro, 1 Yr Carry-In, Li-Polymer Battery, 33 Wh, 802.11abgn, BT, Dedicated, USB 2.0x1, Camera 2 / 8 Mpix, Card Reader MicroSD

[20C1000MPB] ThinkPad 10 Tablet $1220
Intel Atom Z3795, 4GB, 128GB, WiFi + WWAN, NFC, Smart Card Reader, Digitizer & Pen, 10.1 (16:10) WUXGA (1920X1200), Multitouch IPS, Graphite Black, Graphite Black, LTE, Win 8.1 Pro, 1 Yr Carry-In, Li-Polymer Battery, 33 Wh, 802.11abgn, BT, FingerPR, Smart Card reader, Dedicated, USB 2.0x1, Camera 2 / 8 Mpix, Card Reader MicroSD

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Re: ThinkPad 10 discussion thread

2014-04-15, 6:49 AM

Those prices will likely be less in North America.

 

The HP ElitePad 1000 starts at $789 USD (Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit / 10" 1920x1200 display /  Z3795 / 4GB RAM / 64GB eMMC / active digitizer + stylus).

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Re: ThinkPad 10 discussion thread

2014-07-11, 19:00 PM

gcoupe,

 

I floated this thread as I expect there is pent up interest in Tablet 10.

 

I read some of the very lengthy thread over on tablet PC review  that you linked, today.

 

Nice to see you and spinedoc77 being so active there and I appreciate the comparison to Tablet 2 and also to other competing products.  Lot of good thoughts being expressed in that discussion.

 

Maybe we can distill down some of the points and summarize here on this thread?   

 

Thanks

 

Mark

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Re: ThinkPad 10 discussion thread

2014-07-12, 19:43 PM

Mark, that's a long thread over in that forum with lots of points being made, however, perhaps the summary of the discussion thus far would be something along these lines:

 

1) Lenovo has been slow getting the TP10 into the sales channels. Originally slated for June availability, it is only now just becoming available, and then only for a very limited number of models. For example, the PSREF for Europe lists 17 models; only three are so far appearing in the Netherlands. In the US, there are no 4G models even listed in the US PSREF.

 

2) The prices are higher than we had hoped for. That in turn brings strong competition from the Surface Pro 3 (particularly the Core i3 model). For example, the 20C10026MH model of the TP10 (Wacom pen, 64GB Storage, 4GB RAM, Wi-Fi, BT, WWAN (LTE), NFC, GNSS) is available for €810 here in the Netherlands. The Core i3 model of the Surface Pro 3 (N-trig pan, 64GB storage, 4GB RAM, Wi-Fi, BT) is €819. So for an additional €9, you give up the WWAN, NFC and GNSS, but you gain almost a doubling of performance, and a bigger screen, higher resolution, and an attractive 3:2 aspect ratio. For some people, those factors are enough to switch them to the Surface Pro 3.

 

3) For some people, the fanless TP10 is the deciding factor; even the Core i3 model of the Surface Pro 3 has a fan.

 

4) For others, the kickstand on the Surface Pro 3 is a major attraction. The ergonomics are particularly good.

 

5) It probably comes down to whether the Baytrail-equipped TP10 has sufficient performance for your needs, and you want a device in a slate form factor.

 

Both devices have pros and cons, and it will depend on your requirements as to which device is right for you. Personally speaking, I still haven't made up my mind, although I've tried to detail the strengths and weaknesses of both, according to my particular perspective.

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Re: ThinkPad 10 discussion thread

2014-07-15, 0:19 AM
If those prices are even close to accurate, I think I will stick to my strategy of buying Lenovo stuff just behind the curve. I don't mind being behind the pack a little. I just bought a brand new in box Thinkpad Tablet 2 , 64 GB WiFi with the stylus and digitizer for $249. The original price would have been $699 I believe only a year or so ago. I'm happy to poke along on my dual core Atom for a while and wait for the ThinkPad 11 to be announced so I can scoop a TP 10 up for 60% off.
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Re: ThinkPad 10 discussion thread

2014-07-18, 16:22 PM

I find the interest in the Thinkpad 10 interesting, but am curious now whether the Thinkpad 10 "corrects" the issues presented by the TPT2.

 

For instance, are the wireless chips still connected using SDIO? And I'm also curious how the Thinkpad 10 with Ultrabook keyboard dock is going to end up in price comparison with the Thinkpad Helix (which admittedly comes with a shorter battery life, but significantly better performance, and a Trackpoint in the keyboard).

 

GCoupe: I saw your blog post about your "luxury problem" whether to invest in a TP 10 in place of your TPT2. At this point, my biggest issue is the lack of a pen silo. That's one of the issues presented for me by the many Surface Pro variants, despite their better performance. The little pen doesn't bother me as much as it appears to bother others. Must be all those years of using Color Palm Pilots.

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Re: ThinkPad 10 discussion thread

2014-07-18, 17:28 PM
I have not seen an official spec sheet for the TPT10 that says it has GNSS (GPS) on WiFi only models. This is a feature that was attractive for me with the TPT2, especially with offline HERE maps now available for win 8.x. Anyone confirm GNSS available?
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Re: ThinkPad 10 discussion thread

2014-07-18, 17:54 PM

The official spec sheet for the TPT10 (in the PSREF document) implies that GNSS is available on all models, including the WiFi-only ones.

 

I asked for confirmation of this from Lenovo, and have had a message from Mark Hopkins confirming that the Broadcom 4752 GNSS chip is in all models.

 

This has also been independently confirmed by a user who has purchased a WiFi-only model of the TP10.

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Re: ThinkPad 10 discussion thread

2014-07-18, 20:22 PM

 


wrote:

The official spec sheet for the TPT10 (in the PSREF document) implies that GNSS is available on all models, including the WiFi-only ones.

 

I asked for confirmation of this from Lenovo, and have had a message from Mark Hopkins confirming that the Broadcom 4752 GNSS chip is in all models.

 

This has also been independently confirmed by a user who has purchased a WiFi-only model of the TP10.


Thanks gcoupe! Now if only TPT10 pricing is more reasonable, I might upgrade. Otherwise, the TPT2 should last me awhile longer. :)

 

P.S. do you drive an Infiniti G35? this would be another thing we have in common. lol

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