05-07-2014
08:44 AM
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05-07-2014
11:43 AM
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andyP
gpy wrote:
"Exactly, the same form factor of the X230. We loved it, and I based my decision on that"
Ah, I see now, so you just assumed the X240 would be all the same without the need to check the specs.
Well, better luck next time, hang in there. And if worst comes to worst look around for a used X230.
It seems that Lenovo is trying to do a balancing act in trying to attract the new type of business user. (what ever that means)
I myself am skipping the X240 and configuring up a T440p, a little heavier but I can manage it. I did have an X131e in the works, but then I thought about future proofing my purchase.
Suffice to say, get it while you can. It appears 'consumerism' has taken over technology. Keep your eyes open on June 2nd, Apples annual announcement of what's in the works. And the rumor mill has a 12" Mac Air possibly, fan-less and high resolution.
I had a Mac Air 13" great machine, but I didn't like being boxed into Apples ecosystem
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05-28-2014 09:59 PM
I have registered here to just to say
LENOVO, PLEASE ENABLE 16GB SODIMM SUPPORT!!!!!
An interesting post here
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=11
07-21-2014 02:30 PM
Hi all,
Are there news on Lenovo modifying the BIOS for accepting 16GB of RAM?
We just purchased one of the last X230 (and it was a tablet version which we didnt want but was the only available option).
My company has decided to standardize on Apple hardware, even if we run windows, using bootcamp. To many users who must use windows, it's a bad solution.
sancat
07-29-2014 12:06 PM
Same problem for me too - need more than 8GB of memory, but this time it's a combination of development on Eclipse and lots of open windows on Chrome (etc. - I'm not very disciplined ). A new Lenovo laptop with a max of 8GB is not going to last another 3 or 4 years.
The current X201 laptop gets moved between home and office by tube (subway), both of which have dual 9" + 23" screens available, so the laptop screen size is not an issue.
What would be really nice is a new light C1 carbon model with a 512GB SSD and 16GB of memory. That would surely last for 3 or 4 years. But at the moment the C1 only supports 8GB max. It's not as if money is no object at all, but to get the "perfect" system is certainly worth a supplement.
Peter
07-31-2014 07:03 AM
Hi all,
Just reviewing the Lenovo site, for newer versions of the BIOS, it appears the releases are done often (8 releases in 7 months!)
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mob
See below my signature the release history just for 2014.
Any insight into whether the latest fix, enables larger memory support?
Any way to test it? (it may be done, even if not officially supported)
Best
sancat
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- VERSION INFORMATION The following versions of UEFI BIOS and ECP (Embedded Controller Program) have been released to date. Package (ID) UEFI BIOS (BIOS ID) ECP (ECP ID) Rev. Issue Date -------------------- ------------------- --------------- ---- ---------- 2.25 (GIUJ13UC) 2.25 (GIET75WW) 1.13 (GIHT28WW) 01 2014/07/01 2.24 (GIUJ12UC) 2.24 (GIET74WW) 1.13 (GIHT28WW) 01 2014/05/26 2.23 (GIUJ11UC) 2.23 (GIET73WW) 1.13 (GIHT28WW) 01 2014/04/29 2.22 (GIUJ10UC) 2.22 (GIET72WW) 1.13 (GIHT28WW) 01 2014/04/10 2.21-1.13 (GIUJ09UC) 2.21 (GIET71WW) 1.13 (GIHT28WW) 01 2014/04/02 2.21 (GIUJ08UC) 2.21 (GIET71WW) 1.12 (GIHT27WW) 01 2014/03/20 2.19 (GIUJ07UC) 2.19 (GIET69WW) 1.11 (GIHT26WW) 01 2014/02/13 2.18 2.18 (GIET68WW) 1.11 (GIHT26WW) For factory use 2.17 (GIUJ06UC) 2.17 (GIET67WW) 1.11 (GIHT26WW) 01 2014/01/20 2.16 (GIUJ05UC) 2.16 (GIET66WW) 1.11 (GIHT26WW) 01 2013/12/18 2.15 (GIUJ04UC) 2.15 (GIET65WW) 1.11 (GIHT26WW) 01 2013/11/27 2.12 (GIUJ03UC) 2.12 (GIET62WW) 1.08 (GIHT23WW) 01 2013/10/03 2.11 2.11 (GIET61WW) 1.08 (GIHT23WW) For factory use 2.10 (GIUJ02UC) 2.10 (GIET60WW) 1.08 (GIHT23WW) 01 2013/09/20 1.11 1.11 (GIET35WW) 1.07 (GIHT22WW) For factory use 1.07 (GIUJ01UC) 1.07 (GIET31WW) 1.05 (GIHT20WW) 01 2013/06/21 Note: Revision number (Rev.) is for administrative purpose of this README document and is not related to software version. There is no need to upgrade this software when the revision number changes. To check the version of UEFI BIOS and Embedded Controller Program, refer to the Determining which version is installed section. Summary of Changes Where: < > Package version UEFI: UEFI BIOS version ECP: Embedded Controller Program version [Important] Important update (New) New function or enhancement (Fix) Correction to existing function <2.25> UEFI: 2.25 / ECP: 1.13 - (New) Updated the CPU microcode. - (New) Updated the Diagnostics module to version 2.04.01. - (Fix) Fixed an issue where the computer might fail to connect the nettowrk using IPv4 and TCP when the "UEFI IPv6 Network Stack" option was disabled. - (Fix) Fixed an issue where the computer might fail to enter sleep state. <2.24> UEFI: 2.24 / ECP: 1.13 - (Fix) Add the option for Intel Smart Connect Technology into the ThinkPad Setup menu to enable or disable it (Disabled by default). (Note) Setup Default by the F9 key will disable the Intel Smart Connect Technology. To use it, change the option to Enabled. (The UEFI BIOS version 2.23 (GIET73WW) or lower enabled it.) <2.23> UEFI: 2.23 / ECP: 1.13 - (Fix) Fixed an issue where the computer might fail to resume normal operation from sleep state when the SD card reader was disabled. - (Fix) Fixed an issue where the computer might not be booted when the USB storage device was attached to it. <2.22> UEFI: 2.22 / ECP: 1.13 - (New) Added support for Intel Graphics Memory selection in ThinkPad Setup. - (Fix) Fixed an issue that did not keep Fn Key Lock state after resuming normal operation from Intel Rapid Storage Technology. - (Fix) Fixed an issue where the LCD brightness control might not work on Linux. - (Fix) Fixed an issue where ThinkVantage Hardware Password Manager might fail to register the computer. Note: In case that your computer has been registered by ThinkVantage Hardware Password Manager with the UEFI BIOS version 2.21 (GIET71WW) or earlier, you should deregister your computer from ThinkVantage Hardware Password Manager before updating the UEFI BIOS to version 2.22 (GIET72WW) or higher. Consult your IT administrator or the manual of ThinkVantage Hardware Password Manager about how to deregister the computer. <2.21-1.13> UEFI: 2.21 / ECP: 1.13 - (Fix) Fixed an issue where the fan might not rotate after resuming normal operation from sleep state. <2.21> UEFI: 2.21 / ECP: 1.12 - (New) Added support for the UEFI DriverOrder feature. - (New) Updated the Diagnostics module to version 2.03.00. - (Fix) Fixed an issue where UEFI KeyShiftState was not correctly returned for some keys. - (Fix) Fixed an issue where the PCI LAN device was excluded after loading Setup defaults through WMI. - (Fix) Fixed an issue that might fail to boot the computer remotely. - (Fix) Fixed an issue where SMBIOS type 15 structure (System Event Log) was incorrect. <2.19> UEFI: 2.19 / ECP: 1.11 - (Fix) Fixed an issue where the computer might fail to start up when the Intel Rapid Start Technology optoin was set to Enabled in ThinkPad Setup and a partition on the hard disk or SSD was modified. <2.17> UEFI: 2.17 / ECP: 1.11 - (Fix) Fixed an issue that might fail to boot the computer remotely. - (Fix) Fixed an issue where USB 3.0 device detection might fail when the device was attached via the USB 3.0 Hub and the USB 3.0 Mode option was set to Enabled in ThinkPad Setup. <2.16> UEFI: 2.16 / ECP: 1.11 - (New) Added support for new wireless devices. - (New) Enhanced SKU Number in SMBIOS type 1 structure (System Information).
09-12-2014 02:05 AM
I just read that the new Intel Broadwell Mobile CPU - which is most likely also used by Lenovo in newer models - again does not "support 16GB modules officially". On the other hand, I know that someone tested it on a prototype notebook with Broadwell M CPU and it does recognize the 16GB capacity and works just fine.
Now I wonder what the plans of Lenovo and Intel are for the new Broadwell M based notebook models? These again have just one memory-module socket.
Even if the 16GB modules might practically work, it is a certain risk if there was no official statement by Lenovo/Intel that 16GB will be supported.
Will Lenovo check and push Intel to support 16GB SO-DIMMs officially?
09-12-2014 02:51 AM - edited 09-12-2014 05:51 AM
I need to correct myself. The Broadwell Core M takes LPDDR3 which is soldered memory. The test was done on an early Broadwell-U model, not the Core M.
09-28-2014 05:36 PM - edited 09-28-2014 05:40 PM
Hi all,
Epilogue
After much waiting, and with little interest from Lenovo to address the issue, we have moved to HP.
Originally there was the option of getting an X230, but those are all gone. I'm right now using one of them, but, Lenovo does not sell them anymore, in fact reducing memory available for their small form factormodel to 8GB at most. In the age of big data, and data science, that is a mistake.
Moreover, thi,s, my X230 has its days counted, as it cracked on the top bezel (the magnesium support on the corner). The screen works fine, but, the thing is starting to fall appart. This compares with my original X200, likely one of the very first manufactured back in 2008, which lasted well into 2012, and 4 rounds of VC funding. That X200 is still in one piece.
The HP model we are getting is EliteBook 820.
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/html/pdfs/AMS_HP_
Although it does not have the fancy HD screen we would like to have, it does support 16GB and i7 processors, in a small form factor, which reduces our traveling weight, and allows us to crunch R, python, and large/multiple excel files with ease and quickly.
We tried with Apple hardware, but, windows does not play well in bootcamp, for Mac Book Pro hardware (although it works nicely on the Mac Air platform, we have well over 50 machines with that configuration). The MBP option is likely in the $2K+ fully loaded, which would not stop us from buying it, were it to work. But it doesnt.
Only HP is manufacturing a machine, for data scientists, working in Windows.
Cheers to all
sancat
10-28-2014 10:32 AM
This is not the first time Lenovo is too slow to recognise their customer needs. Who on Earth, being in sane mind, would create a new "X" machine with measly total 8gb RAM ofered in... SINGLE-CHANNEL! Really??? I can see the army of developers, scientists of any caliber and enthusiasts who are scratching their heads trying to understand why Lenovo decided to mutilate oh-so-popular "X"line by making it... well, ...silly. I am sorry but the word is completely appropriate. X240 is a joke. Lenovo responces / lack of action are a joke. BIOS update would cost nothing but hey- since 16gb isn't DESIGNED to work with X240 it might be better just to stuff their ears with cotton wool and pretend that everyone is absolutely happy about it. I tell you what- (just DON'T ask me WHY I need 16gb RAM- just don't go there, PERIOD!)- I am a customer who used to spend about £4K ($8K) on Lenovo X/T lines every two years. Well, X240 made me to spend £1K on Lenovo X240 and the rest gone to HP 820 G1. If this is the result they wanted to achieve then congratulations and well done. But after supporting the brand for so long I hoped this company would recognise people like myself. That remains to be a wishful thinking. And Apple start to look so appealing....
11-19-2014 02:29 PM
I am been a user of X230 and this series of laptop for the last 4 years. I like this product like. I need 16GB to run photoshop. I have been waiting for Lenovo enable the 16GB so that I can upgarde to X240. Please, Leveno.