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X1 Extreme - "Thunderbolt BIOS assist" bricking issue - Does 1.17 resolve it?

2018-12-21, 23:02 PM

1) Does BIOS 1.15 for the X1 Extreme have the bricking issue when setting the 'BIOS support for Thunderbolt' option to enabled via the BIOS?

 

2) If the answer to the above question is yes, will BIOS 1.17 for the X1 Extreme (which is coming out on Dec 24) address this issue?

 

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Re: X1 Extreme - "Thunderbolt BIOS assist" bricking issue - Does 1.17 resolve it?

2018-12-22, 17:59 PM

I don't know what you are looking at. The most recent BIOS update version for the X1 Extreme I see on Lenovo's site is version 1.10.

 

https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/tw/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-x-series-laptops/thinkpad-x1-extreme/downloads

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Re: X1 Extreme - "Thunderbolt BIOS assist" bricking issue - Does 1.17 resolve it?

2018-12-22, 18:21 PM

 

 


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I don't know what you are looking at. The most recent BIOS update version for the X1 Extreme I see on Lenovo's site is version 1.10.

 

https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/tw/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-x-series-laptops/thinkpad-x1-extreme/downloads


As per another post I made last night or this morning, it looks like 1.15 was just pulled in the past day or so, probably due to all the BIOS bricking issue complaints and suggestions to remove it till a fix is avialable which was in an email someone else here sent to the CEO among others).

They also did not put version 1.13 back (after removing 1.15) and instead went all the way back to 1.10 (to be safe I guess).

 

I, like many others here, am on BIOS 1.15 (upgraded about 3 days ago after getting the laptop Monday).

BIOS v. 1.17 is due out on Dec 24 per two Lenovo employees who posted multiple updates yesterday in about 5 different threads here for the same bricking issue for the P52, X1 Extreme etc.

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Re: X1 Extreme - "Thunderbolt BIOS assist" bricking issue - Does 1.17 resolve it?

2018-12-22, 19:25 PM

Ok, makes sense. Sorry I don't have anything helpful to add at this point regarding the X1 Extreme.

 

I have an X280 and the latest BIOS update, version 1.23, dated Nov. 13, 2018 addresses this issue for the X280.

 

CHANGES IN THIS RELEASE
  Version 1.23

[Important updates]
  Nothing

[New functions or enhancements]
  Nothing.

[Problem fixes]
- Fixed an issue where the system might hang up when Thunderbolt BIOS Assist Mode
  was changed on Diagnostics Boot Mode.
 

  

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Re: X1 Extreme - "Thunderbolt BIOS assist" bricking issue - Does 1.17 resolve it?

2018-12-22, 19:52 PM

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Ok, makes sense. Sorry I don't have anything helpful to add at this point regarding the X1 Extreme.

 

I have an X280 and the latest BIOS update, version 1.23, dated Nov. 13, 2018 addresses this issue for the X280.

 

CHANGES IN THIS RELEASE
  Version 1.23

[Important updates]
  Nothing

[New functions or enhancements]
  Nothing.

[Problem fixes]
- Fixed an issue where the system might hang up when Thunderbolt BIOS Assist Mode
  was changed on Diagnostics Boot Mode.
 

  


No problem. Thanks for posting re. the X280 BIOS update. One would think / hope that if they figured out how to resolve it for the X280, hopefully they also figured out how fix it for the X1 Extreme.

 

Hopefully Lenovo support, or someone who has enabled this 'Thunderbolt BIOS Assist mode' for the X1 Extreme, can comment on whether 1.15 or 1.17 addresses this issue as well.

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Re: X1 Extreme - "Thunderbolt BIOS assist" bricking issue - Does 1.17 resolve it?

2018-12-25, 13:29 PM

Based on the lack of replies, I guess none of the thread viewers had tried enabling Thunderbolt BIOS Support with 1.15?

 

Anyway, BIOS 1.17 is out now, so hopefully Lenovo Support can confirm if 1.17 also addresses this Thunderbolt Support bricking issue. 

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Re: X1 Extreme - "Thunderbolt BIOS assist" bricking issue - Does 1.17 resolve it?

2018-12-25, 13:51 PM

Below are the items listed in the v1.17 readme file, the thunderbolt assist issue should’ve been addressed from v1.15 onwards.

 

<1.17>
 UEFI: 1.17 / ECP: 1.08
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where the system might not boot with Discrete Graphics.
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where the system will black screen under OS environment.

<1.15>
 UEFI: 1.15 / ECP: 1.08
- (New) Support "USB Docking Only" option for Thunderbolt in ThinkPad Setup - Config
        - Thunderbolt 3 - Security Level.
- (New) Support Intel Smart Sound Technology.
- (New) Improved thermal function.
- (New) Updated the Diagnostics module to version 04.04.001.
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where the system might hang up when Thunderbolt BIOS Assist 
        Mode is changed on Diagnostics Boot Mode.
- (Fix) Disabled Lenovo Active Protection System on RAID configuration system.

<1.13>
 UEFI: 1.13 / ECP: 1.07
- (New) BootOrderLock is shown as Enable in WMI command if Device Guard is enabled.

<1.12>
 UEFI: 1.12 / ECP: 1.07
- [Important] Update includes a security fix.
- (New) Support TPM firmware Update by utility.
- (New) Updated the Diagnostics module to version 04.00.001.
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where system can't connect by Serial Over LAN function.
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where BIOS POST might display the error message ""Boot 
        Manager recover from an error.""
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where BIOS silent update might fail with system account.

<1.10>
 UEFI: 1.10 / ECP: 1.07
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where the memory frequency was unexpected setting with Intel
        Core i5 and Xeon processor.

<1.09>
 UEFI: 1.09 / ECP: 1.06
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where SGX driver lost after S3 resume.
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where user cannot install Linux OS.

<1.08>
 UEFI: 1.08 / ECP: 1.05
- (New) Improve performance on Best Battery, Better Battery and Better Performance
        mode.
- (Fix) Fixed an issue that Intel Alert Standard Format(ASF) became disable when 
        flashed the BIOS.

<1.07>
 UEFI: 1.07 / ECP: 1.05
- (New) Initial release for ThinkPad P1 and ThinkPad X1 Extreme.

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Re: X1 Extreme - "Thunderbolt BIOS assist" bricking issue - Does 1.17 resolve it?

2018-12-25, 14:03 PM

Feedback from reddit mentioned there are screen tearing and flickering after updating to v.1.17 when discrete graphics was enabled, anyone here experiencing similar issues?

 

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Re: X1 Extreme - "Thunderbolt BIOS assist" bricking issue - Does 1.17 resolve it?

2018-12-25, 15:50 PM

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Below are the items listed in the v1.17 readme file, the thunderbolt assist issue should’ve been addressed from v1.15 onwards.

 

<1.17>
 UEFI: 1.17 / ECP: 1.08
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where the system might not boot with Discrete Graphics.
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where the system will black screen under OS environment.

<1.15>
 UEFI: 1.15 / ECP: 1.08
- (New) Support "USB Docking Only" option for Thunderbolt in ThinkPad Setup - Config
        - Thunderbolt 3 - Security Level.
- (New) Support Intel Smart Sound Technology.
- (New) Improved thermal function.
- (New) Updated the Diagnostics module to version 04.04.001.
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where the system might hang up when Thunderbolt BIOS Assist 
        Mode is changed on Diagnostics Boot Mode.
- (Fix) Disabled Lenovo Active Protection System on RAID configuration system.

<1.13>
 UEFI: 1.13 / ECP: 1.07
- (New) BootOrderLock is shown as Enable in WMI command if Device Guard is enabled.

<1.12>
 UEFI: 1.12 / ECP: 1.07
- [Important] Update includes a security fix.
- (New) Support TPM firmware Update by utility.
- (New) Updated the Diagnostics module to version 04.00.001.
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where system can't connect by Serial Over LAN function.
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where BIOS POST might display the error message ""Boot 
        Manager recover from an error.""
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where BIOS silent update might fail with system account.

<1.10>
 UEFI: 1.10 / ECP: 1.07
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where the memory frequency was unexpected setting with Intel
        Core i5 and Xeon processor.

<1.09>
 UEFI: 1.09 / ECP: 1.06
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where SGX driver lost after S3 resume.
- (Fix) Fixed an issue where user cannot install Linux OS.

<1.08>
 UEFI: 1.08 / ECP: 1.05
- (New) Improve performance on Best Battery, Better Battery and Better Performance
        mode.
- (Fix) Fixed an issue that Intel Alert Standard Format(ASF) became disable when 
        flashed the BIOS.

<1.07>
 UEFI: 1.07 / ECP: 1.05
- (New) Initial release for ThinkPad P1 and ThinkPad X1 Extreme.

Thanks, however it appears as though this was still an issue with 1.15 though; see the following concerning post about someone with a P1 laptop on 1.15 BIOS still bricking after enabling Thunderbolt BIOS Support.

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-P-and-W-Series-Mobile/ThinkPad-P1-20MD-bricked-after-setting-Display-to-Discrete-in/m-p/4312811#M77970

Be careful all regarding this Thunderbolt BIOS Support setting! I don't need it anyway, but based on the above post (concerning a P1, which apparently shares the same BIOS as the X1E, bricking due to this setting even on 1.15), I would not touch this setting for now even if I needed it, until it is confirmed to be fixed.

 

There is no mention of 1.17 addressing this (perhaps Lenovo is, somehow, not aware this is an issue!

If anyone has any positive experiences to share in this regard, please let us know.

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Re: X1 Extreme - "Thunderbolt BIOS assist" bricking issue - Does 1.17 resolve it?

2018-12-26, 20:05 PM

I just requirested a full refund for mine. Sending it back, don't have time for these idiots to wake up.... clearly this isn't fully resolved yet.

They should have contacted all relevant customers and issued a recall or at least sent out a warning for this. Wasted a ton of my time. Will not buy Lenovo again, back to Dell.

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