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Improving startup time

2011-11-17, 15:15 PM

Hi,

I've seen all those claims of ~10sec bootup with windows 7 being done. I really wonder how this is possible in the 'regular' world, where you kind of want applications to bootup! Here is what I have:

 

-x220 core i7, 8GB RAM, win7-64 HomePremium from Lenovo recovery disk.

-myDigitalSSD 64GB msata drive for the OS and applications.

-User folder on the normal HD (I wonder if this is slowing me down).

 

Startup programs:

ESET smart secutity, skype, dropbox.

 

It takes about 40sec to bootup until skype is logged on and ready to use. Now if I disable all the bootup apps, I get about 33 seconds. So I really wonder how in the world it's possible to get down to even 20-25sec! I understand 10sec is pushing it, but seems like 40 is getting long!

 

I've done the easy optimizations like removing splash screen at bootup, disabling a few services, etc..

 

Are there some BIOS settings I should play with?

 

Thanks!

Dave

 

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Re: Improving startup time

2011-11-17, 15:56 PM

 

Hi Dave, 

 

I have a OCZ Vertex2 SSD in my X220 and I did a fresh Windows 7x64 install when I got my SSD.  I currently have it timed at a 14 second start up time from pressing the power button until I reach the windows login page. 

 

Even after I put my password in and login though, it is usually not more than 5 - 8 seconds before my desktop is up and running and I can go on Firefox, word etc.  I don't have skype on auto start so I'm not sure how much extra time that would add.

 

I am not sure off hand what would be slowing down your start times but could be your HD, possibly the speed of your mSata, possibly your recovery install.  Not saying that it is any of those things, just some things that come to my mind.  Have you played around with the Rapid boot feature at all?

 

Startup Apps - NIS 2012, Lenovo auto lock

 

Hope that helps,

 

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Re: Improving startup time

2011-11-17, 17:04 PM

You can try a freeware named soluto at http://www.filehippo.com/download_soluto/ it will show you all the time taken by the individual programs. You can also delay some of the programs from startup till desktop is reached.

 

However, the time hogs are difficult to remove, especially if you want features.....stuff like network detection and so on are the biggest time hog. If you bootup using safe mode, maybe you would see the 10 second timing....or from hibernation.

 

Also, with SSD, a clean and brand new drive would be faster. As more percentage of the SSD is used, the speed tends to reduce.

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Re: Improving startup time

2011-11-17, 17:31 PM
If you're into more technical boot tracing, you can use the boot trace and analysis tools in the Windows Performance Toolkit:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/140247-trace-windows-7-bootshutdownhibernatestandbyresume-issues/

For the record, 40 seconds to boot is way too high for an SSD. It's almost up to HDD boot times.

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Re: Improving startup time

2011-11-17, 19:17 PM

Hi,

Thanks for the replies. 

I've been digging more, and made sure the BIOS was set to AHCI mode (and it is). 

I now ran two separate HD benchmarks attached here. It's funny how different they both are. I wonder if something is wrong with this SSD. I know it was not supposed to be the fastest mSata SSD out there, but it was 'cheaper' and I doubt that it should cost me 20seconds!!!

 

 

 

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Re: Improving startup time

2011-11-18, 4:27 AM

Hello,

 

Are you running ESET Smart Security v3.0, v4.0, v4.2 or v5.0?  The latter contains an improved startup scan that only starts after the computer has completed booting up and been idling for a few minutes.  It is a free upgrade, so you might want to try installing it and see if that makes any difference in startup time.

 

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Re: Improving startup time

2011-11-18, 11:48 AM

Hi,

I *was* running ESET v5.0 until yesterday. After trying to tweak it so it would start up faster, I decided to fully remove it, and it gave me a good 10seconds back! 

I'm now at 30sec from the press of power to a loaded skype and connected WIFI.

 

Note that I did remove rapidboot also at the same time, so i can't quite blame it all on ESET. I'll play a little more with this and might have to go with MS Security Essentials. Honestly, I don't think ESET has blocked anything in two years in my case...don't open dodgy emails and getting yourself a real girlfriend takes care of most of it! I'm even considering using nothing and see. Worst case you reinstall the whole thing...

 

Thanks!

Dave

 

 

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Re: Improving startup time

2011-11-19, 4:01 AM

Hi gretzteam

Probably, you can disable ESET pop-up and startup scan during boot up. This works for my friends old PC. It could shave some boot up time and CPU resources during startup.

You could use the link ColonelONeill post on the previous link and analyze which services delayed your startup. I disabled some of the unused Windows services and it boots up much faster.

Now I am still playing around with that great tool to achieve Optimum Startup / Shutdown speed.

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Re: Improving startup time

2011-11-19, 12:46 PM

Hi,

I ran the xperf tool and managed to get the report. However, this is getting a little out of my leages, and honestly I'd only be interested in knowing if there are some low-hanging fruits here. I'm having a hard time figuring out where to focus in this report. Maybe someone with experience could have a 2 min look and give me suggestions?

 

Thanks a lot! 

My boot trace xml log

 

Edit:

Here is the .etl file as well, since it seems to have more information (this is about 90MB)

My boot trace .etl file

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Re: Improving startup time

2011-11-21, 6:34 AM

Hello,

 

Hmm... the ESET software should not do that—perhaps it is trying to download updates and introducing a delay because a network connection hasn't been established yet?  If that's the case, you can configured it for use in "dial-up mode" so that it will wait until after a network connection is established before downloading an update.

 

Regardless of what brand you prefer, you should always have some sort of anti-malware software on your computer.  Even if you have good safe computing habits, chances are you might be on the same network with someone who does not.

 

Oh, one additional thing:  I noticed you are using an mSATA SSD.  Did you install the operating system to it natively, or clone it from an existing installation?

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky

 



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