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joesixgig
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Message 11 of 17

Re: Lenovo X1 Yoga 3rd Generation: not impressed


@hytekj wrote:

Probably a Windows 10 issue but... Getting BSOD now after Windows updated to KB4464330. It was running without issue on 1809 for the past week and now every time I power on from hibernation it throws a BSOD with error "DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE"


Ouch, you're not having much luck! I haven't seen that myself. Have you ever run the Lenovo Vantage app? Search for it in the Windows Store to make sure you have the most up to date version. Then check for all updates under System Update (patience needed, the app isn't fast..). There may be updates for your X1Y3 that MS isn't pushing, but that Vantage will recommend. 

 

On a positive note, at least the trackpoint drift problem seems to have been fixed! 

hytekj
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Message 12 of 17

Re: Lenovo X1 Yoga 3rd Generation: not impressed


@joesixgig wrote:

@hytekj wrote:

Probably a Windows 10 issue but... Getting BSOD now after Windows updated to KB4464330. It was running without issue on 1809 for the past week and now every time I power on from hibernation it throws a BSOD with error "DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE"


Ouch, you're not having much luck! I haven't seen that myself. Have you ever run the Lenovo Vantage app? Search for it in the Windows Store to make sure you have the most up to date version. Then check for all updates under System Update (patience needed, the app isn't fast..). There may be updates for your X1Y3 that MS isn't pushing, but that Vantage will recommend. 

 

On a positive note, at least the trackpoint drift problem seems to have been fixed! 


Thanks but I manually went through every single driver and compared to what is on Lenovo's website and made updates accordingly. There are no new drivers released by Lenovo in the past week that would apply.

 

While the trackpoint drift problem may have been fixed, my touchpad still freezes up regularly. Hard to tell if its a Windows 10 issue, Lenovo hardware issue, or driver issue.

 

Its a shame that PC hardware has gone down in quality as has Windows OS.

hytekj
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Message 13 of 17

Re: Lenovo X1 Yoga 3rd Generation: not impressed

So I am noticing erratic behaviour with the fingerprint reader during boot as well.  When I try to use my fingerprint in place of the HD password, it sometimes says OK and validates the fingerprint but still prompts me for a password, other times it has no problem and proceeds to load Windows, and some times it just fails and I have to enter the password. Very inconsistent...

hytekj
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Message 14 of 17

Re: Lenovo X1 Yoga 3rd Generation: not impressed

I have made the decision to return the machine. I was planning to buy more machines if it worked well but there were just too many issues and Lenovo remaining silent / not resolving the ghost touch issue and paint coming off is very bad. The first rep I spoke with insisted that I must go through tech support to try to resolve issues before I would be allowed to return the machine. I 'HUCA'd' and got a rep and simply said I didnt like the machine and wanted to return it for a full refund and got a RMA. I really did not like the HDR screen. My Surface Book 2 screen is far superior except for the fact it is so darn reflective. I did not think the text was clear and the smaller aspect ratio with so much dead space just bothered me. I might give it another try if Lenovo resolves issues, perhaps the next generation.

kepstein
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Message 15 of 17

Re: Lenovo X1 Yoga 3rd Generation: not impressed

FWIW . . . I've had the X1 Yoga 3rd Gen with the upgraded HDR display since September 2018.  It's my daily driver, and I am not in the least bit gentle with it (although I do wipe fingerprints off the case, keyboard and screen a few times a week). It is transferred between my kitchen table, backpack, desk, lap, and coffee shop table mutliple times every day.  The unit is on and working at least 12 hours a day.  I throw my backpack around alot, often dropping it a few feet at a time.  There are no scratches, scrapes, paint peelings or dents anywhere on the exterior or interior of the case, which is more than I can say for any other laptop I've owned after more than 6 months of use.  I have not noticed the Ghosting issue to which others refer. The fingerprint scanner had to be replaced within the first week, which was done at a service center in Redmond, which is local to me. The fingerprint scanner is a little finnicky, but performs okay once you figure out what works best for you (e.g., quick tap, long soft press, hard press, etc.).  This is the 4th laptop I've had with a fingerprint scanner -- I agree with the other comment that it's amazing no one has implemented a fingerprinter reader that works as well on a PC as it does on a smartphone. To comments about mouse pointer drift . . . this is an inherent property with the trackpoint pointing device.  Trackpoint relies on pressure & resistive guages to move the mouse point.  If you apply more pressure than is needed, a small amount remains in the resistive guages after you release which causes the mouse to continue to move until depleted.  This has been around since the trackpoint was implemented (and the only mouse control) on Thinkpads in the early 1990s.  Overall, I'm quite happy (obviously, right?) with this Thinkpad.  But to be honest, I'm willing to put up with a lot of flaws for the best and unrivaled laptop keyboard on the market.  If anything changes over the coming months/years, I'll post.

joesixgig
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Message 16 of 17

Re: Lenovo X1 Yoga 3rd Generation: not impressed


@kepstein wrote:

FWIW . . . I've had the X1 Yoga 3rd Gen with the upgraded HDR display since September 2018.  It's my daily driver, and I am not in the least bit gentle with it [....]  There are no scratches, scrapes, paint peelings or dents anywhere on the exterior or interior of the case, [...] I have not noticed the Ghosting issue to which others refer. [...] If anything changes over the coming months/years, I'll post.


Nice to hear a positive note once in a while! Smiley Happy  Believe me, the trackpoint behavior of some of these units is not the usual recalibration thing. I say this having used the trackpoint since the X61t.

 

Right now my X1Y3 is behaving well, with the broken (as in "provably dead") fingerprint reader the only real functional problem. Relatively short battery life, scuffed paint, lack of a volume rocker, rare ghost touches, and the occasional few-second trackpoint drifts are minor annoyances, but so be it. All in all it feels like a 7/10 kind of device, while what I paid was a price that should really get me a 9/10 system. I hope the next version is substantially better. 

kepstein
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Message 17 of 17

Re: Lenovo X1 Yoga 3rd Generation: not impressed

Real-world battery life is never anything close to manufacturer or even reviewer estimates on any windows machine, surface included. My experience is that battery life in-the-wild will be no more than 60% of the estimates no matter who makes the machine (I have working Dell, HP, Acer, Apple and Surface laptops). I'm sorry to hear your unit has problems. The Yoga 900 I owned prior to the X1Y3 was really disappointing - maybe even awful - so I feel for you.  BTW, I love the trackpoint. The mouse drift with the Trackpoint has been around since my first Thinkpad in 1993 -- in the old days, the Mouse could drift accross the entire screen for 30 seconds or more and might have gone longer had the screens been larger . . . 

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