07-04-2019 01:58 AM
I got my Lenovo X1 extreme 20MF-000TMD but I have some issues with the laptop.
The machine tend to shutter alot and spike on CPU every 3 - 4 sec, for like 2 sec where the mouse freezes. I tryed all kinds of things.
- Completley reinstalling the laptop with windows 10 enterprise
- booting in safe mode
- turning off powersaving option.
- Tuning the throttle option
- Updateing everything to the newest driver including BiOs
- Downgrading the drivers to an older versionen.
- Disabling trackpad, trackpoint, screen and gpu drivers, wlan, thunderbolt, keyboard.
When I go to device manager and Display settings, the menu seems to "flicker" - I put a video about it down below.
I ran a Lenovo dignostic on the laptop with no issues deteted.
I tryed to disable the trackpad, and that helped, for like 10 min then the issue returened.
help is most welcome.
kind regard: Peter
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07-04-2019 10:35 AM - edited 07-04-2019 10:35 AM
Anything plugged into USB ports?
I have used Process Explorer (free from microsoft) to figure out what is using the CPU
07-04-2019 11:43 PM - edited 07-04-2019 11:48 PM
I tried with both a mouse and just a phone charger - there doesn’t seem to be any problems with them, but the problem is still there.
In addition, I tried with nothing plugged in at all
I'll try with Process Explorer - thanks
07-10-2019 01:39 PM - edited 07-10-2019 11:37 PM
I have the same issue with a X1 Yoga, 3rd Gen. Short bursts of CPU-usage I can't pinpoint to any program (+CPU ramping) and the flickering devices manager.
What I've found is, that if you switch over from the thunderbolt 3 graphics dock (GTX 1050) to the USB-C AC-adapter (and nothing else connected), the problem is gone. But as soon something like my smartphone or the thunderbolt 3 graphics dock is connected to the machine via the USB-C ports, every 11 to 13 seconds CPU will spike and the frequency will ramp up from around 1.4 GHz to over 3 GHz.
Well, not exactly to be precise. While plugging in my phone and unplugging it will act as a "switch" to the problem (connected = problem; disconnected = no problem), the graphics dock behaves differently. Once (all in one go, no restart or shutdown in between) you switch from the graphics dock to battery then to ac-wall-adapter, again battery and back to the graphics dock, the problem will be gone until the next restart/reboot.
I have lenovo Vantage installed which updated every driver, program, BIOS, etc.. Further I manually updated the thunderbolt firmware to 220.127.116.11-N25TF12W to be safe and checked the thunderbolt software for updates (18.104.22.1680 installed, up-to-date).
My suspicion is, that the problem was created during the last update of the thunderbolt firmware OR the update to Win 10 1903 because it's roughly around then when I realized the issue. So it's possible that something changed during the Win update which now collides with the latest version of the thunderbolt firmware.
Can someone confirm my findings?
07-13-2019 03:44 AM - edited 07-13-2019 03:53 AM
I did a thing!
Well, it is rather stupid and not exactly logical, but it helped. Usually you'd assume that for using a TB3-Device you'd need something like a "Thunderbolt(TM) Service" active. At least so did I. Turns out: No.
If you deactivate this service "Thunderbolt(TM) Service" in the Windows Services Manager and restart, neither will your PC be on fire (no warranty though!) but there is a quite good chance that the USB-C ports will still be working (at least for me since I'm writing this on my second monitor with my mouse connected - both to the TB3 graphics dock). The spikes are gone, CPU temp is down and I'm having a splendid Saturday afternoon right now.
Edit: Argh! It's back. Diminished but still present. :/
07-15-2019 01:16 AM
ok, so now the issue has resolved itself, nothing has been done, I was away on holiday for a week and when I wanted to test with Process explore, my laptop has stopped with the shutter. Strange.
I’ll try to keep my laptop on for some time and see if it returns.
07-15-2019 02:14 AM
and it's back..
the pc was on for like an hour and then it was back.
I can see that it's something with USB 3.1 host controller.
It keeps popping up and then disappearing, like it's getting disconnected then connected every 3 sec.
I will get a service on the laptop and change the motherboard.