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alazar14
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Lenovo X250/X260 Msata Compatible?

Greetings,

 

I just have a quick question, does the Lenovo X250 or will the X260 be compatible with both an SSD and an MSATA storage option?

 

I plan to buy the X260 sometime in late March, but my biggest concern is swapping out the included 500 GB hard drive, or at least supplementing it with an MSATA 500 GB drive.

 

I am worried about how I am going to get windows 10 on the drive, given that by swaping the main drive I will get rid of the OS. So my plan is to find a way to move the O.S. from the main drive to an MSATA.

 

However, if there is a way for me to simply install a new SSD (500GB) and replace the included 500GB 7200 RPM drive, then I would just rather do that.

 

Not having the CD or CD key seems to make re-installing the OS rather difficult though.

 

Any help would be appreciated, Thanks!

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Re: Lenovo X250/X260 Msata Compatible?

I haven't tried x260, but x250 works with M2 drives. mSATA is old technology

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Re: Lenovo X250/X260 Msata Compatible?

Does it support both a standard SSD and an M2 drive? Or is it one or the other. Also, would you happen to know how I could replace the hard drive that comes in, and re-install windows if Lenovo doesn't give me a product CD or key for Windows?

 

I've read stuff about the key being in the motherboard, so would I have to open up the laptop to read the key engraved in the motherboard in order to install windows? Would I have to download a torrent version of windows and put it in a USB stick in order to have a "boot" image?

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Re: Lenovo X250/X260 Msata Compatible?

2 drives are fine. What operating system are you running?

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Re: Lenovo X250/X260 Msata Compatible?

Hello,

 

Any M.2 2242 SSD should work in the ThinkPad X250, but keep in mind they tend to have slower write speeds than 2.5" or even mSATA SSDs because they have fewer NAND Flash DRAM chips to spread the writes across (it's the parallelism of writing data to multiple chips on an SSD board that provides fast write speeds). 

 

The reason for having fewer chips is the size of the logic board:  An M.2 2242 SSD is 924mm² (22mm×42mm) while an mSATA SSD is 1.6× larger at 1500mm² (30mm×50mm).

 

The highest capacity M.2 2242 SSDs in production right now are 512GB, while mSATA SSDs currently go up to 1TB.

 

One thing to keep in mind is that the M.2 SSD uses the same slot on the motherboard as the WWAN module, so if you choose to add an M.2 SSD, you'll have to remove the WWAN module.

 

As for 2.5" SSDs, any 7mm high one (and possibly 9.5mm high) should fit into the ThinkPad X250.

 

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Aryeh Goretsky

 



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Re: Lenovo X250/X260 Msata Compatible?

About write speed that is wrong, I got a M.2 SSD in my x1 Carbon an Samsung Evo 850 and it gives me around 500-550MB Read and Write speed so size does not Mather so M.2 won't be slower than a 2.5 SSD
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Re: Lenovo X250/X260 Msata Compatible?

Hello Jake,

 

The current generaion ThinkPad X1 Carbon uses a full-size M.2 2280 SSD (22mm×80mm, or 1,760mm²) which is nearly twice the size of the M.2 2242 form factor.  Plenty of room for NAND flash chips on a board that size.  I believe the previous X1c generations use the same size, too, although the first generation model may have a different connector.

 

The smaller M.2 2242 SSDs that fit in the X250, T440p, etc. reportedly get read speeds in excess of 500MB/s, but write speeds of only 150-450MB/s.

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky

 

 

 



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Re: Lenovo X250/X260 Msata Compatible?

Hi, I have an X260 that is replacing my x230 with an MSata SSD in it running the OS, and a regular 5200 rpm HDD for files. Am I out of luck in being able to move the mSata to the new laptop because the mSata will fit into the WWan slot (where an M.2 HDD would go)? I mainly want it as an OS drive again.

Thx!

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Re: Lenovo X250/X260 Msata Compatible?

Hello,

 

The X260 does not use a MiniPCIe/mSATA connector.  It uses an M.2 connector for a WWAN card, into which you can install a M.2 2242 SSD.  mSATA and M.2 use different connectors and are not interchangeable.

 

Currently, M.2 2242 SSDs are available in capacities from 8GB to 512GB, although you probably want a minimum of 128GB if you are going to run Windows on it.  I have a X250, and use a 256GB M.2 SSD in mine.

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky

 

 


@roudiz wrote:

Hi, I have an X260 that is replacing my x230 with an MSata SSD in it running the OS, and a regular 5200 rpm HDD for files. Am I out of luck in being able to move the mSata to the new laptop because the mSata will fit into the WWan slot (where an M.2 HDD would go)? I mainly want it as an OS drive again.

Thx!


 



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Re: Lenovo X250/X260 Msata Compatible?

Darn, then I have a 128 GB mSATA drive that is now obsolete. Is there anything I can do with this drive, use it as a data storage somehow (internal or external), or ? Is it worth anything on the market?

Thanks for the fast reply!

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