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xueyao
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NVME Drive for X260

Hi everyone! I've recently purchased an X260 with HDD and wanted to upgrade to the NVME SATA-E Toshiba drive. Went online and found the PCIe cable and the Toshiba drive. All is working well and speeds are on par for an NVME drive.

 

However, I've recently encountered BSOD in windows 10 after not actively touching the laptop for an hour or so. It would then throw an error 2100 stating that the drive cannot be found, which can be verified when jumped into the bios without hard rebooting. However, the drive would appear again after turning the laptop off and back on. I suspect that there's a firmware error causing the drive to stop responding.

 

I downloaded the latest nvme driver updater by Lenovo and the programme shows this.

IMG_6917.JPGNvme firmware update by lenovo

Apparently what I bought online was an engineering sample, with a much older firmware than the one Lenovo provides. The programme refused to recognise the drive and I am unable to update it. Is there anyways for me to update this drive, or anyway to try hard flashing the firmware into the drive?

 

Thank you!

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Re: NVME Drive for X260

Sorry I don't have an answer for your problem, but I wouldn't mind upgrading my X260 with a NVME drive... I'm still miffed that they didn't just put a M.2 slot in it, but are using this odd 2.5" format with a proprietary cable...

 

I wonder what other decent 2.5" NVME drives exist?

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| X220 i7-2620M | 12.5" HD IPS | Intel 180GB SSD | Crucial 480GB mSATA SSD | 8GB DDR3 | Intel 7260 AC |
| X260 i7-6600U | 12.5" FHD IPS | Samsung 860Pro 512GB SSD | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 8260 AC |
xueyao
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Re: NVME Drive for X260

This is the only NVME Sata Express drive in existence. It's OEM only provided to Lenovo for the X260. No other drives exist for the SATA Express standard over NVME. 

JDDean
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Re: NVME Drive for X260

Heads up! Lexar just released the first 2242 NVME drive (NOT SATA) in 120, 240 and 512gb versions! https://www.lexar.com/portfolio_page/ssd-nm520/ (There have been 2242 mSATA drives around for a few years, but these wouldn't work in the X260 due to no SATA connections for the PCIe ports)

 

These should work in the WWAN PCIe port because NVME is entirely PCIe, rather than SATA over PCIe. The pre-existing 2242 sized PCIe drives were all SATA over PCIe, which required SATA routing built into the PCIe port on the motherboard (which wasn't made available on the X260).

 

I'm only able to find them on B&H Photo Video: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1454342-REG/lexar_lnm520_256rbna_256gb_internal_ssd_nm520.htm...

 

The 120gb and 512gb versions are listed as "Special Order", but the 240gb version is back ordered, but at least it's something! I'm debating on if I want to put in an order for the back-ordered 240gb version.

 

 

EDIT: I was also able to find them on Amazon, but they show as a pre-order item and show as full list price (whereas B&H has them discounted): https://www.amazon.com/Lexar-NM520-512GB-Solid-State-LNM520-512RBNA/dp/B07NTXH61R/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_...

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Re: NVME Drive for X260

Wow, cool! I'm still rocking my X260 with a Samsung 860 Pro SATA.

Not keen on the newer models since they lose ethernet.

Have you ordered this drive yet? I would be very interested in seeing your results, and possibly upgrading my own X260 with this.

 

However, i do have some reservations, mainly what type of NAND this SSD uses... I assume it's at least TLC (Triple Level Cell) given the low cost, but I do hope it's not a QLC (Quad Level Cell), and who makes the controller and the specs...

 

Low cost QLC NVME drives are starting to come out, and the performance is sometimes below a spinning hard drive once if you copy a large amount of data and its "buffer" runs out.

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| X220 i7-2620M | 12.5" HD IPS | Intel 180GB SSD | Crucial 480GB mSATA SSD | 8GB DDR3 | Intel 7260 AC |
| X260 i7-6600U | 12.5" FHD IPS | Samsung 860Pro 512GB SSD | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 8260 AC |
JDDean
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Re: NVME Drive for X260

I just ordered the 250gb version from B&H. It's still showing as backordered, but the $40 off offer ends April 13 '19 at 11:59 pm ET and you can't beat near 40% off! They do list expected availability as Apr 16, 2019, so I may get it in the next 2 weeks or so.

 

According to the product page on the Lexar website, it only says 3D NAND flash, so not sure on the xLC type, but comparing the read/write speeds to Intel SSDs with QLC, it appears it might be at least of one of the newer types. I'll let you know if I can figure that out once I get it.

 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1454342-REG/lexar_lnm520_256rbna_256gb_internal_ssd_nm520.htm...

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Re: NVME Drive for X260

Wow, that is cheap. I'm going to try it myself, for $59 USD even after taxes and shipping for the 256gb one shipped to Canada its worth a shot.

 

Thanks for the heads up again.

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| X220 i7-2620M | 12.5" HD IPS | Intel 180GB SSD | Crucial 480GB mSATA SSD | 8GB DDR3 | Intel 7260 AC |
| X260 i7-6600U | 12.5" FHD IPS | Samsung 860Pro 512GB SSD | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 8260 AC |
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Re: NVME Drive for X260

Just to let everyone know I also ordered one, and will report when it arrives.
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| X220 i7-2620M | 12.5" HD IPS | Intel 180GB SSD | Crucial 480GB mSATA SSD | 8GB DDR3 | Intel 7260 AC |
| X260 i7-6600U | 12.5" FHD IPS | Samsung 860Pro 512GB SSD | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 8260 AC |
JDDean
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Re: NVME Drive for X260

Looks like the availability notice is now gone. I reached out on live chat to B&H to see if they had any idea.

Before jumping on chat, I noticed the price dropped another $5, so now it's $55. I mentioned that during the chat and they immediately adjusted the price. I didn't even have to ask.

Unfortunately no info on availability yet.

jejakbadai
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