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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon 7th Gen X1C7 - first look

2019-11-29, 21:10 PM
I see None. Maybe name, like everyone says X1C and folks run towards it.
I did that too, but after owning all possible versions of X1C 7th, I can see its shortcoming. Some folks unable. That's all.

Don't get me wrong, X1C is very solid machine. In general I like it.
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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon 7th Gen X1C7 - first look

2019-11-30, 23:07 PM

Anyone know the battery drain difference between the low-power 400 nit and the privacy guard 400 nit?

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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon 7th Gen X1C7 - first look

2019-11-30, 23:38 PM
100%. 1W vs 2 W, yet this doesn't mean you get twice battery life with low-power display. The gain will be 75 -120 (max) minutes. Plus unpleasant artifact on the screen if of cause you're picky and pay attention to the details.
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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon 7th Gen X1C7 - first look

2020-01-05, 21:59 PM

To all,

 

After owning 4 versions of X1C 7th and not being impresed by various aspects (screen or battery, etc) I decided to order T490S. I went with top configuration:

1TB

32GB RAM

2K 500 nits display

Top processor

 

In all aspects of day to day usage T490S beats X1C 7th. Only one area where Carbon wins is the speakers. To address this I use Bluetooth. on 490S

In all other categories that are critical to me 490S wins hands down:

1. Screen: 500 nits is a way to go. Day and night vs 300 nits on X1C.

2. Battery: Despite only ~12% being larger on 490S, in practical usage I am getting 8-9 hours of real usage. In contrast with X1C HD I could arrange ~ 7 hr, with 2K (still X1C 2K is only 300 nits, which is very dim) ~ 5-6 at best and with 4K at best 4 hours.

3. Since X1C doesnt even offer 32GB, there is no contest at this category. 

 

If anyone still hasn't decided or not fully satified with X1C, look into 490S

And as always: ThinkPad keyboard rules!. Just yesterday, I went to Costco and spent 15 min near new MAC 16 and new Dell XPS 13. Don't know about you folks, but for me any other keyabord after X1C or 490S is a crap. 

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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon 7th Gen X1C7 - first look

2020-01-05, 22:04 PM

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To all,

 

After owning 4 versions of X1C 7th and not being impresed by various aspects (screen or battery, etc) I decided to order T490S. I went with top configuration:

1TB

32GB RAM

2K 500 nits display

Top processor

 

In all aspects of day to day usage T490S beats X1C 7th. Only one area where Carbon wins is the speakers. To address this I use Bluetooth. on 490S

In all other categories that are critical to me 490S wins hands down:

1. Screen: 500 nits is a way to go. Day and night vs 300 nits on X1C.

2. Battery: Despite only ~12% being larger on 490S, in practical usage I am getting 8-9 hours of real usage. In contrast with X1C HD I could arrange ~ 7 hr, with 2K (still X1C 2K is only 300 nits, which is very dim) ~ 5-6 at best and with 4K at best 4 hours.

3. Since X1C doesnt even offer 32GB, there is no contest at this category. 

 

If anyone still hasn't decided or not fully satified with X1C, look into 490S

And as always: ThinkPad keyboard rules!. Just yesterday, I went to Costco and spent 15 min near new MAC 16 and new Dell XPS 13. Don't know about you folks, but for me any other keyabord after X1C or 490S is a crap. 


You can't even get any of the 10th gen X1C 7 in the UK website of lenovo. 

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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon 7th Gen X1C7 - first look

2020-01-06, 16:57 PM

Is it just me or the new ThinkPad X1 Carbon 8th Gen is simply the 7th Gen as of September 2019?

 

https://news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/LENOVO-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen8-R4.pdf

Same displays, same CPUs at 14nm (and not the Ice Lake 10nm with the newer and more powerful GPU), same RAM (DDR3 while it could be DDR4, max 16Gb again), same size/weight, same battery.

 

The 7th Gen had an "upgrade" after summer 2019 with some new CPU, I5-10210U, I7-10510U, I7-10710U. But everything else was just the same as the models with the "older" cpus. 

I was expecting 8th Gen to be at least an update but nothing, so to me it looks like a rebranding of the 7th Gen into 8th Gen but not much more.

 

Or am I missing something?

 

I'm still on my X1 Carbon 4th Gen and was first looking at the 7th Gen as replacement but I really dreamed about the 10nm CPUs with new GPU and hopefully 32Gb of DDR4 RAM. Sounds like even the 8th Gen will not match my dreams.

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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon 7th Gen X1C7 - first look

2020-01-06, 18:10 PM
same here mate, I was too hoping for Ice Lake with Iris Plus in X1C8. I have been having a feeling since pretty much the summer refresh and the availability issue that istead of Lenovo treating X1 as a flagship it neglects it to hell. After 13 years with ThinkPads seeing the new XPS13 + all the issues people have been mentioning with X1C7 here it seems that it might be time to give Dell a shot...
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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon 7th Gen X1C7 - first look

2020-01-06, 18:21 PM

 wrote:

Is it just me or the new ThinkPad X1 Carbon 8th Gen is simply the 7th Gen as of September 2019?

 

https://news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/LENOVO-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen8-R4.pdf

Same displays, same CPUs at 14nm (and not the Ice Lake 10nm with the newer and more powerful GPU), same RAM (DDR3 while it could be DDR4, max 16Gb again), same size/weight, same battery.

 

The 7th Gen had an "upgrade" after summer 2019 with some new CPU, I5-10210U, I7-10510U, I7-10710U. But everything else was just the same as the models with the "older" cpus. 

I was expecting 8th Gen to be at least an update but nothing, so to me it looks like a rebranding of the 7th Gen into 8th Gen but not much more.

 

Or am I missing something?

 

I'm still on my X1 Carbon 4th Gen and was first looking at the 7th Gen as replacement but I really dreamed about the 10nm CPUs with new GPU and hopefully 32Gb of DDR4 RAM. Sounds like even the 8th Gen will not match my dreams.


its shocking really

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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon 7th Gen X1C7 - first look

2020-01-06, 19:23 PM

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it might be time to give Dell a shot...

Believe me, Dell is even worse. At least X1C7's problems are all manageable. Dell even cannot make a reliable motherboard.

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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon 7th Gen X1C7 - first look

2020-01-06, 20:30 PM

I recently purchased a 10 nm based Spectre x360 that I have been using side by side with the 7th gen x1 Carbon for about 3 weeks now. It's about 200g heavier, the keyboard is surprisingly good, both are fast enough for everything I do, but battery life is about 40% longer for the HP.

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