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Vantage's Optimize Now feature

2021-06-13, 13:56 PM

Having recently got a ThinkPad again, I always liked the Vantage app.  I did notice a new section called Optimize Now. 

 

It performed flawlessly as a teaser, with a nice progress bar and tech jargon, informing me in the end that I had x number of things wrong with my X1C, something it would be happy to fix for a 'reasonable' £4.50 per month (gotta love that tactic, why not 15p a day!).

I'm guessing that this is just Lenovo's take on CCleaner and similar products?

 

What are your thoughts on this new upsell product that Lenovo is pushing?

 


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Re:Vantage's Optimize Now feature

2021-06-13, 15:19 PM

What are your thoughts on this new upsell product that Lenovo is pushing?

 

Same as my thoughts about CC Cleaner's non-free versions: Thanks, but no thanks.


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Re:Vantage's Optimize Now feature

2021-06-13, 21:26 PM

Hello,

I did not realize that Lenovo is selling a so-called "Optimizer". I use the Commercial Vantage so I am not treated to as many ads. Personally, I use the free SLIM version of CCleaner that does a great job.  Occasionally, I let Windows do a Disk Cleanup as well. Never had a problem, but I do not install a lot of junky apps and I use good realtime web monitoring. Having said that, it is also true that the amount of cleaning necessary may also depend on the owner's habits.






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Re:Vantage's Optimize Now feature

2021-06-14, 1:52 AM

SLIM version of CCleaner

 

I didn't realize Piriform offered an unbloated, un-booby-trapped version of CCleaner. So that's one less download I have to watch closely during installs.

 

Thank you!


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Re:Vantage's Optimize Now feature

2021-06-14, 2:04 AM

It can be found by going to "Builds". I don't do their "Update Now" offer within the app. I always download Slim manually. The Slim updates show up a few days after the main app updates, so be patient.

https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/builds

 






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2021-06-14, 2:40 AM

Yes, I'd already Googled on 'CCleaner Slim' and bookmarked the Builds page when I thanked you. 


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Re:Vantage's Optimize Now feature

2021-06-14, 10:13 AM

Hello,

 

The user interface appears to be the same as Avast Cleanup Premium.  Avast acquired Piriform, the company which makes CCleaner, in 2017.  I would be surprised if there was any difference between the two programs other than cosmetic (user interface-related) ones.

 

In my experience, Windows 10 is largely self-maintaining and capable of maintaining and dynamically tuning itself without the use of third-party software.  For example, most ThinkPads come with M.2 form-factor NVMe SSDs by default these days, and are not going to benefit from defragmentation—it may even shorten the lifespan of the SSD.

 

If you feel the need to perform maintenance manually, you could periodically run the Disk Cleanup wizard (filename: CLEANMGR.EXE) as an admin to remove unused temporary files and the like, but that's about all that should be necessary.

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Re:Vantage's Optimize Now feature

2021-06-14, 11:08 AM

Avast acquired Piriform, the company which makes CCleaner, in 2017.

 

Yes, and soon thereafter CCleaner started getting loaded up with stealth bloatware, ranging from Avast AV to various browser toolbars and even browsers. An ironic development for a tool that claims to "clean" junk off peoples' PCs.

 

In my experience, Windows 10 is largely self-maintaining and capable of maintaining and dynamically tuning itself without the use of third-party software.

 

My use of CCleaner is limited to:

  1. cookie management
  2. cleanup of Recycle Bin and temp files

I imagine there are other tools that do essentially just that without the "added value" from Avast. I'd welcome suggestions for a "cleaner" and "leaner" CCleaner.

 

 


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Re:Vantage's Optimize Now feature

2021-06-19, 17:52 PM

I've just purchased a 9th Gen and it comes with a different flavour, 'Commercial Vantage'.   No pushing of expensive software that's unnecessary for people who know their way around computers.

 


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Re:Vantage's Optimize Now feature

2021-06-19, 18:11 PM

As I understand it, Lenovo began installing Commercial Vantage in many if not all 2020 and newer ThinkPads.


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