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mircolino
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Windows 10 Update downloaded X1E firmware 1.0.0.23 when 1.24 is already installed

Is this going to start a boot loop like last time it happened?

 

 

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Re: Windows 10 Update downloaded X1E firmware 1.0.0.23 when 1.24 is already installed


@mircolino wrote:

Is this going to start a boot loop like last time it happened?

 

 


If 1.24 is already installed, Windows Update will show that the 1.23 firmware (aka BIOS) was successfully installed. The real question is who thought that pushing Thinkpad BIOS updates through Windows Update services was a good idea? The recent track record on the P1/X1 Extreme BIOS updates of which several "bricked" the systems when applied does not lend itself to unattended installation.


P53 XEON 2276 BIOS 1.16 OLED UHD 4K Multi-touch display, 96GB RAM, RTX5000, RAID 1, 1TB x 2 Samsung PM981, 1TB PM981, WWAN
P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.32, 4k Display, 64GB, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID1 1TB Samsung PM981 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
P1. BIOS 1.24,Xeon Processor, 32GB, PM981 1TB x 2, RAID1
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Re: Windows 10 Update downloaded X1E firmware 1.0.0.23 when 1.24 is already installed

You'd think, but nope. It will actually first DOWNGRADE your BIOS from 1.24 to 1.23 and then enter a REBOOT loop because 1.23 fails to start (see screeshot),

 

This is absolutley infuriating. How many times do I have to endure this?

Everytime I have a system that works to my liking you can bet on Lenovo to proactively f@#k up something.

I'm still recovering from the MS Store auto-update Vantage enterprise to consumer debacle and now this.

 

/SMH

 

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Re: Windows 10 Update downloaded X1E firmware 1.0.0.23 when 1.24 is already installed

I had the same issue. Instead of restarting the system, 1st uninstall the 1.23 firmware device that is showing in device manager including the software it is trying to use. Then run the 1.24 update from the Lenovo catalog and then let the system restart. It should then install 1.24 again. It may take two tries for this to resolve itself. I'm still not sure where the Lenovo firmware device came from, but it is the cause of the issue.


P53 XEON 2276 BIOS 1.16 OLED UHD 4K Multi-touch display, 96GB RAM, RTX5000, RAID 1, 1TB x 2 Samsung PM981, 1TB PM981, WWAN
P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.32, 4k Display, 64GB, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID1 1TB Samsung PM981 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
P1. BIOS 1.24,Xeon Processor, 32GB, PM981 1TB x 2, RAID1
T470s, 16GB RAM, BIOS 1.10, i7-7500, WQHD display, 512GB PM961 PCIe NVMe SSD
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Re: Windows 10 Update downloaded X1E firmware 1.0.0.23 when 1.24 is already installed

Yes, and then the moment you check for Windows Updates... 1.23 is pushed again.

 

 

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Re: Windows 10 Update downloaded X1E firmware 1.0.0.23 when 1.24 is already installed

Your scenario seems different than the one that I experienced. I let the system restart with 1.23 (I think that it took a couple of times), and then I deleted the Lenovo Firmware 1.23 device entry. I then started up the system again, checked the installed update log which showed that the 1.23 was not sucessfully installed, and then I downloaded the 1.24 BIOS update again and applied it. Eventually, the system was flashed to 1.24 and some messages appeared that the configuration had been changed. Running Windows Update again did not download the 1.23 pushed update again. There was nothing else that I tried.


P53 XEON 2276 BIOS 1.16 OLED UHD 4K Multi-touch display, 96GB RAM, RTX5000, RAID 1, 1TB x 2 Samsung PM981, 1TB PM981, WWAN
P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.32, 4k Display, 64GB, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID1 1TB Samsung PM981 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
P1. BIOS 1.24,Xeon Processor, 32GB, PM981 1TB x 2, RAID1
T470s, 16GB RAM, BIOS 1.10, i7-7500, WQHD display, 512GB PM961 PCIe NVMe SSD
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Message 7 of 16

Re: Windows 10 Update downloaded X1E firmware 1.0.0.23 when 1.24 is already installed

Not in my case. As soon as I'm done manually reapplying 1.24, just like you, the system is flashed to 1.24 and some messages appeared that the configuration had been changed. But when I'm back in Windows 10 I get a taskbar notification that firmware update 1.23 was not installed succesfully and then Windows Update starts pushing 1.23 again... 

 

But besides all this, who in her/his right mind decides to push a firmware older than the one already released two weeks ago on the support site?

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Re: Windows 10 Update downloaded X1E firmware 1.0.0.23 when 1.24 is already installed

Did you delete the firmware software when you deleted the Lenovo Firmware device in the Device Manager? When I look in my installed updates, the installation shows as failed with some code. Update does not offer it again for some reason. Are you part of the Windows Insider program?


P53 XEON 2276 BIOS 1.16 OLED UHD 4K Multi-touch display, 96GB RAM, RTX5000, RAID 1, 1TB x 2 Samsung PM981, 1TB PM981, WWAN
P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.32, 4k Display, 64GB, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID1 1TB Samsung PM981 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
P1. BIOS 1.24,Xeon Processor, 32GB, PM981 1TB x 2, RAID1
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Message 9 of 16

Re: Windows 10 Update downloaded X1E firmware 1.0.0.23 when 1.24 is already installed


@harrisb wrote:

Did you delete the firmware software when you deleted the Lenovo Firmware device in the Device Manager? 


if you mean "uninstall device" before deleting it then yes

 


@harrisb wrote:

Are you part of the Windows Insider program?


yes, I'm on 1909

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Message 10 of 16

Re: Windows 10 Update downloaded X1E firmware 1.0.0.23 when 1.24 is already installed

That may be the issue. Are you on the Fast  or the Slow Ring. 


P53 XEON 2276 BIOS 1.16 OLED UHD 4K Multi-touch display, 96GB RAM, RTX5000, RAID 1, 1TB x 2 Samsung PM981, 1TB PM981, WWAN
P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.32, 4k Display, 64GB, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID1 1TB Samsung PM981 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
P1. BIOS 1.24,Xeon Processor, 32GB, PM981 1TB x 2, RAID1
T470s, 16GB RAM, BIOS 1.10, i7-7500, WQHD display, 512GB PM961 PCIe NVMe SSD

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