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andrew4ceo
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Message 11 of 26

Re: X1 Carbon 2015 - Where is the 256 GB PCIe option?

who uses that hdmi port? not many. besides, a hdmi dongle would suffice for those that use it 1 time every 2 years.

 

more people use sd cards on a daily basis.  heck, a lot of people are using mico sd cards nowadays. they could have fitted thtat.

fleche
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Message 12 of 26

Re: X1 Carbon 2015 - Where is the 256 GB PCIe option?

One can say the same about SD card, you just need a USB SD card reader. 

This came out of focus groups, a lot of X1 users are execs and marketing types who travels a lot and do presentations, dongles were inconvenient and they tend to lose them. While SD slot were hardly used, when it came down to it, most people in the group wanted the full size HDMI rather than the SD slot.

 

The other spaces were taking up by

NIC (corporate customers NEEDS this to load their customized images, booting off USB Eternet Adapters were problematic)

Docking Port (again, a NEED for corporate customers)

mini DP (Kept for external monitors)

2 USB (nobody would be in favor of reducing this to 1 to add a SD card slot)

andrew4ceo
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Message 13 of 26

Re: X1 Carbon 2015 - Where is the 256 GB PCIe option?

Any businses doing presenations one time out of the year can just get a 15ft mini hdmi to hdmi cable.  Heck, even 1 time a month. It's not really a hassle as they can keep the cable connected to the projector or store it with the tv.

 

Forcing everyone else to carry a SD card reader is just stupid.

 

The Asus ultraboook have 3 USB cable, 1 Full HDMI port and a SD card reader.

 

And one last thing. Most marketers use Apple Macbooks anyways. And that too guess what, has a SD card slot.

Not sure what group they were interviewing that didn't want a SD card slot but it's probably the same stupid group that said they didn't want the touchpad and to get rid of the physical function keys and replace it with the adaptive keys.. lol

 

 

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Message 14 of 26

Re: X1 Carbon 2015 - Where is the 256 GB PCIe option?


@fleche wrote:

One can say the same about SD card, you just need a USB SD card reader. 


The problem with a USB SD reader is that like all dongles it sticks out the side of the unit. That not only detracts from the sleek look of the X1 but also makes the dongle and USB port susceptible to damage from accidental bumps and such.

 

Was any consideration given to incorporating a microSD port at the back of the unit along with the WWAN SIM as was done for example in the TPT2? 

 

P.S. These days when you can get fast 64GB and larger microSD cards this would allow people to add SSD-sized removable storage to their X1Cs. This would be useful for distribution of large databases, backups, etc. 

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Message 15 of 26

Re: X1 Carbon 2015 - Where is the 256 GB PCIe option?


hausman wrote

Was any consideration given to incorporating a microSD port at the back of the unit along with the WWAN SIM as was done for example in the TPT2? 


No, because it would raise the cost of the X1 carbon by 15 cents.

fleche
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Message 16 of 26

Re: X1 Carbon 2015 - Where is the 256 GB PCIe option?

They're going to other places to do presentations, using other people's projectors and sometimes HDMI is all they get. Forgetting to bring an adpater would mean not be able to run the presentation they wanted. (It happens more often than you think)

You may need a SD card slot but that doesn't mean everyone needs one.

 

For the company I work for, we have close to 100 first gen X1's deployed, my own little survey says 95% NEVER even used it, out of the 5 who does, only 2 says they used it very often. While 50+ says they wanted a full size HDMI.

 

As for the touchpad, overwhelming majority of people were in favor of bring the buttons back once they tried the new buttonless touchpad. Most of the people hated the adaptive keys as well.

I understand SD is very important to you, by all means, get someting that works for you.

 

andrew4ceo
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Message 17 of 26

Re: X1 Carbon 2015 - Where is the 256 GB PCIe option?

How many laptops have full size hdmi slots? Everyone should by a X1 carbon
to use the projectors? LOL A simple $5 cable from ebay could have
accomplished that.

Besides, there is clearly room for a SD card reader.

 

The Gen 1 had an SD card reader on the right side.  The full size HDMI port is on THE OTHER SIDE. lol

fleche
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Message 18 of 26

Re: X1 Carbon 2015 - Where is the 256 GB PCIe option?


@hausman wrote:


The problem with a USB SD reader is that like all dongles it sticks out the side of the unit. That not only detracts from the sleek look of the X1 but also makes the dongle and USB port susceptible to damage from accidental bumps and such.

 

Was any consideration given to incorporating a microSD port at the back of the unit along with the WWAN SIM as was done for example in the TPT2? 

 

P.S. These days when you can get fast 64GB and larger microSD cards this would allow people to add SSD-sized removable storage to their X1Cs. This would be useful for distribution of large databases, backups, etc. 

 

 

My thought was that most people don't need constant access  to an SD card, so when you do, hook up a USB reader.

 

People tend to use USB thumb drives as removable storage, every computer have USB ports, not everything has a SD slot. Why would you want to use something that less universal?

 

Using SD card for backup isn't a great idea becuase

1) They're fairly small and slow compare to the size of the laptop SSD.

2) They/'re on the computer, doesn't help when you lose the computer or someone can just pop it out and take all your infomation.

3) Backup should be done over the network.

 

Don't know about microSD slot on the back. Again, my belief is that there just wasn't enough room for everyting and SD card ended up getting the short end of the stick.

 


 

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Message 19 of 26

Re: X1 Carbon 2015 - Where is the 256 GB PCIe option?


@fleche wrote:

 

As for the touchpad, overwhelming majority of people were in favor of bring the buttons back once they tried the new buttonless touchpad. Most of the people hated the adaptive keys as well. 


Addressing those abominations would be my first priority too. I still don't understand how those "features"  got incorporated into the 2nd gen models in the first place--assuming there was any usability testing and focus groups involved.

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Message 20 of 26

Re: X1 Carbon 2015 - Where is the 256 GB PCIe option?


andrew4ceo schrieb:

Besides, there is clearly room for a SD card reader.
 

The Gen 1 had an SD card reader on the right side.  The full size HDMI port is on THE OTHER SIDE. lol


It doesn´t matter in the slightest on which side the port is - cause the new X1 Carbon was a total redesign anyway. What does matter is, if there is ROOM (and by room, I don´t mean a blank space on the outside, cause that doesn´t mean there is room). There is no room inside the X1 Carbon 2nd and 3rd gen for an SD card reader. Lets compare two pictures:

csm_IMG_0368_07_a8097e0e07.jpg

Look at the red marked part: Thats the SD card reader - in a machine where every mm counts thats not a small component. Note that its almost takes the same space as the WLAN card. Now, look at the X1 Carbon 2nd/3rd gen:

X1_Carbon_Innen_72.jpg

You can say what you want, there is no room, hausman is absolutely right. An SD card-slot is than you can see from the outside.

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