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plinth
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X1 Yoga 1st Gen: SATA or NVMe SSD?

Hi,

 

I'm looking to buy a used X1 Yoga 1st Gen.  In looking at the spec  (here, under Specifications tab), under storage I see

Storage
Some:
  M.2 SSD / SATA 6.0Gb/s
Some:
  M.2 SSD / PCIe NVMe, PCIe 3.0 x 4, 32Gb/s

Indeed, when you look at the 50-odd US models of this unit, you see that some come with M.2 SATA 3 drives and others with M.2 PCIe/NVMe drives. If, say, I buy a unit with a SATA 3 drive, then want to upgrade, must I buy a SATA 3 drive, or can I choose either SATA or NVMe/PCIe? And on the off-chance I live large and buy a 2nd Gen, does the same answer apply? (given that the spec sheet says exactly the same thing in the Storage sub-section.) Thank you.

ujda765
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Re: X1 Yoga 1st Gen: SATA or NVMe SSD?

Its motherboard supports both Sata3 and NVMe interface in circuit.

but most models sold in the US are factory installed with NVMe ssds.

only those very cheap models (with low resolution LCD and sold with

highly discount prices) are factory installed with Sata3 ssds. So if you

buy a used one, your chance to see a Sata3 ssd is very low.

 

X1Y gen1 to gen3 are almost identical. The circuit board are almost

the same, all sockets, screw holes, etc. are the same. As far as I know,

besides the USB-C functionality, the other difference is lenovo NFC daughter

card doesn't work for X1Y1 , but work for X1Y2 and X1Y3---although X1Y1

does have the socket and electric wires for NFC daughter card.

 

My personal opinion:

 

It looks that X1Y1 was pushed into the market in a very hurry way. the

design is almost premature, It has many small problems, for example,

wwan card needs 30 second to be ready everytime wakes up from sleep.

It is very annoying. and many small functions  are not ready (although

it does have all the wires/sockets/components on the mother board), 

so lenovo fixed these things slowly in X1Y2 and X1Y3.

plinth
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Re: X1 Yoga 1st Gen: SATA or NVMe SSD?

Actually, it looks like, of the 51 U.S. models of the Gen 1 listed on Lenovo's site, 24 state explicitly that they shipped with SATA 3 drives, 10 with PCIe/NVMe, and 16 with an unspecified M.2 SSD.   Of that 24, 9 have a WQHD display, 9 (some w/ WQHD, some not) have i7 CPU's and a 10th offers 16GB of memory.  So I wouldn't say SATA3's showed up only on "very cheap" models. 

 

In any case, thank you for taking the time to respond in detail.  I also appreciate your opinion about Y1 reliability.  Problems seem to be the norm for pretty much 1st-gen anything.

 

Model	Storage
20FQ000QUS	512GB SSD M.2 SATA3
20FQ0030US	512GB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe
20FQ003LUS	512GB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe
20FQ003MUS	512GB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe
20FQ005EUS	512GB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe
20FQ0031US	512GB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe
20FQ000SUS	512GB SSD M.2
20FQ002YUS	512GB SSD M.2
20FQ003JUS	512GB SSD M.2
20FQ003TUS	512GB SSD M.2
20FQ003VUS	512GB SSD M.2
20FQ0054US	512GB SSD M.2
20FQ0056US	512GB SSD M.2
20FQ0057US	512GB SSD M.2
20FQ005DUS	512GB SSD M.2
20FQ0060US	512GB SSD M.2
20FQ0035US	512GB SSD M.2
20FQ0037US	512GB SSD M.2
20FQ000RUS	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ0010US	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ001VUS	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ003KUS	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ003NUS	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ003QUS	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ003UUS	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ0055US	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ0059US	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ005AUS	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ005BUS	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ005CUS	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ005XUS	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ005YUS	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ0066US	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ0067US	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ006DUS	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ0033US	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ0036US	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ0038US	256GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ001WUS	256GB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe Opal2
20FQ003SUS	256GB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe Opal2
20FQ0058US	256GB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe Opal2
20FQ0032US	256GB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe Opal2
20FQ0034US	256GB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe Opal2
20FQ003HUS	240GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ000YUS	192GB SSD M.2
20FQ003WUS	192GB SSD M.2
20FQ0039US	192GB SSD M.2
20FQ003PUS	180GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ006CUS	180GB SSD M.2 SATA3 Opal2
20FQ003RUS	128GB SSD M.2
ujda765
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Re: X1 Yoga 1st Gen: SATA or NVMe SSD?

The models you listed are for 3rd party retail company resell or direct business orders.  If you as a consumer placed the order from lenovo website, the model number would be 20FQCTO1WW, there was no option to choose a SATA3 SSD.  NVMe was the only option.

 

As I remember, when X1Y1 was out, the NVMe with OPAL2 encryption was not ready, probably that's the reason there are so many company models with SATA3 SSD.

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