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X1 Yoga over Carbon? Questions about both

2018-11-20, 2:54 AM

I was looking at getting the X1 carbon (8650u, WQHD HDR, 16 GB, 1 TB) but then noticed that the X1 yoga in the same configuration is only about $100 more. I am a student so I feel like the touchscreen/stylus would come in handy, although I have never used a device like that. It seems like the trade offs are a slightly larger chassis, a bit of heft, and slightly reduced battery life, which I am willing to accept.

 

My primary question is if there are any fatal QC flaws with the Yoga. I know about the fairly well-documented paint peeling on the Carbon, for example, but haven't heard of anything about the Yoga. It would be nice to see how the two compare thermally before purchasing.

 

Is the Yoga any more or less serviceable than the Carbon?

 

How do the keyboards compare?

 

How does the glossiness of the HDR display compare on the two devices?

 

Lastly would either of them have a better chance of having a Samsung SSD?

 

I am also disappointed that these two computers have the old wifi chips. Is there still a whitelist? I can find aftermarket Intel 9560 with BT 5.0 for like $20, so I would be interested in dropping one of those in.

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Re: X1 Yoga over Carbon? Questions about both

2018-11-20, 5:03 AM

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I was looking at getting the X1 carbon (8650u, WQHD HDR, 16 GB, 1 TB) but then noticed that the X1 yoga in the same configuration is only about $100 more. I am a student so I feel like the touchscreen/stylus would come in handy, although I have never used a device like that. It seems like the trade offs are a slightly larger chassis, a bit of heft, and slightly reduced battery life, which I am willing to accept.


It seems like not everyone has this, but my X1Y3 has some pretty significant paint loss around the left side ports. Other QC issues include the dreaded 'ghost touch', which seems most prevalent on X1Y3 with the HDR screen. The other issue (also seen on the X1C6) is the drifting cursor, either a firmware or a hardware issue with the trackpoint. 

 

Personally I hit the jackpot (I have all three issues..) but I do want to stress that this is still a pretty great machine. The Wacom AES pen that comes with the machine is pretty handy for note taking and making sketches for a presentation. It might be worth taking the risk. Consider your warranty options, and seriously consider returning the maching outright if it shows the ghost touch issue. Good luck deciding!

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Re: X1 Yoga over Carbon? Questions about both

2018-11-20, 5:34 AM

Wow the ghost touch seems very concerning. How did you deal with it? Sounds like it is quite a frequent problem.


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Re: X1 Yoga over Carbon? Questions about both

2018-11-20, 5:45 AM

I have the X1Y2 and never had paint issues or ghost touch issues. I'm also a student, so it's in and out of backpacks every day. 

 

I've seen the ghost touch issues on nearly every convertible touchscreen laptop, not just the X1 Yoga.  It's usually a hardware issue with the digitizer cable (I do see a 'temporary fix' on the forum thread with ghost touch). 

 

So I would say the ghost issues isn't that common, or specific to the X1 Yoga, but you'll want to be more careful with the 360 hinge on the Yoga than the X1 Carbon. But with all hardware defects, it's often just luck.

 

 


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Re: X1 Yoga over Carbon? Questions about both

2018-11-20, 12:34 PM

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Wow the ghost touch seems very concerning. How did you deal with it? Sounds like it is quite a frequent problem.


It's quite annoying, and it's definitely one of the more prevalent issues with this machine (3rd gen with HDR screen, not the 2nd gen). Just remember the way forums work, for every few people posting about the problem, there's likely thousands of people who don't have the problem. I honestly don't know if this is a 1 in 100 chance thing or a 1 in 100,000. It's just good to know about: if your new unit has it, my advice is return it while you can, don't try to have it repaired. 

 

How did I deal with it? I didn't. :) I have a three year warranty on the unit, so if it really gets out of hand I know I can have it fixed any time. It's not ideal, but I can work around it. 

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Re: X1 Yoga over Carbon? Questions about both

2018-11-20, 17:03 PM

Thanks for the reply. I think I am just going to go with the carbon since I am buying with the holiday special, and really do not want to have to return and repurchase at full price. Also can't do onsite warranty because I am never at home during the business day.


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Re: X1 Yoga over Carbon? Questions about both

2018-11-20, 17:29 PM

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Thanks for the reply. I think I am just going to go with the carbon since I am buying with the holiday special, and really do not want to have to return and repurchase at full price. Also can't do onsite warranty because I am never at home during the business day.


Fair enough. One point that's probably not going to change your mind: with the onsite warranty the tech will happily come to your place of work as well, at least they did for me the two times that I requested it on previous ThinkPads. 

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2018-11-21, 4:11 AM

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Fair enough. One point that's probably not going to change your mind: with the onsite warranty the tech will happily come to your place of work as well, at least they did for me the two times that I requested it on previous ThinkPads. 


Haha I work at a hospital. They would sure love to have a Lenovo tech fixing personal property on site...


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