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Wolters
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X201 which SSD?

Hi, I spoke to a Lenovo sales person today after having got some tips from you guys on SSD disks in an x201 which I have yet to buy... Anyway, he recommended the ThinkPad 128 GB Solid State Drive, 43N3406. When asked about the possibility of fitting an Intel X-25 G2 160GB SSD instead, he wasn't sure if that would work!!! (Well, I guess he was paid to say something like that!). But I wanted to check with you guys to be dead sure before buying a "third party" SSD and pop it in the x201. So if you are already running this configuration with an Intel X-25, or you have information suggesting that it is not advisable to fit anything else but the Lenovo recommended SSD-drive, your comments are most welcome!

 

Thanks!

 

Dag

 
 
 
BlutoNYC
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Message 2 of 11

Re: X201 which SSD?

I'm looking to do the same thing.... The X-25 G2 drives have that SSD Optimizer that prevents from premature malfunction.  I can't see why it wouldn't work.

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Re: X201 which SSD?

The Intel SSD's will work fine. I been using Intel X25 and X18 G2 MLC, 160gb for several kind of Thinkpads that includes the X201. The Intel SSD G2 support Trim, NCQ and are basically faster and not more expensive per gb. The Lenovo 128gb SSD i believe is either Samsung or Toshiba and as far as i know none of them support trim or NCQ.

 

I don't know all the details for the Lenovo SSD's, but the Intel is known to be among the best and fastest SSD's. Also the Intel SSD's have mechanism to decrease the SSD wear level issue that will extend the lifetime of the drive. There are others as well that can compare to the Intel SSD's so i'm not saying Intel is the only option. I'm just saying that i would recommend the Intel SSD and they are among the best. I currently use a Intel X25 G2 MLC, 160gb SSD with a Thinkpad W510.

 

One additional note: Windows 7 support trim, but you also have to make sure the driver support trim. Using the Microsoft AHCI driver or Rapid Storage Technology driver 9.6 or newer from Intel will give you trim support when running Windows 7. Otherwise you would have to use the Intel SSD toolbox and run the optimizer manually or scheduled.

 

-gan

robkassab
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Message 4 of 11

Re: X201 which SSD?

I have a x200 with a OCZ Vertex SSD, and a x201 with Lenovo-supplied drive.  The x200 has 4GB RAM and the x201 has a i7 processor and 8 GB RAM.   I ran HD Tach tests on both, and the OCZ drive beat the stock SSD hands down.  I wish I would have ordered the 201 with a mechanical drive and then installed the new OCZ Vertex II, which is faster than my Vertex.

Rob Kassab
X260 20A7 i7 16GB Win 10 Pro 64 512 SSD Ultradock | X240 20AL-00D7US, i7 8GB Win8.1 Pro 64, 512 SSD, Ultradock | X201 3249-CTO, i7 8GB Win7 Ult 64 Vertex 2 UltraBase | Twist S230u 3347-XF7, i7 8GB 120GB SSD, Win8 Pro | X120e 0596-CTO E350 4GB Win7 Ult 64 Vertex 2 SSD | X200 | T61 | T42 | X31 | T30
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Message 5 of 11

Re: X201 which SSD?

The OCZ Vertex 2 Pro is supposed to be very good, but i never tried it myself. As far as i know they are pretty expensive though.

 

You can find some more info here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2899

 

And here with some simple benchmarks:

http://www.techspot.com/review/271-ocz-vertex2-ssd/page1.html

 

-gan

Flagone
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Message 6 of 11

Re: X201 which SSD?

I installed the 240gb OCZ Vertex II.  It is really fast and has enough space for what I need.  It makes shutting down and starting windows bearable.

robkassab
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Message 7 of 11

Re: X201 which SSD?

A couple other observations:

 

I noticed when I cloned my new SSD from my old mechanical drive, the space needed for all of the files was significantly less on the SSD--by about 20% or so, even though my mechanical drive was well-defraged (I ran a defrag every day since new).  So you may get by with a smaller SSD than you think because of it's storage efficiency.

 

If you want (almost) the speed of an SSD at a reasonable price, I've been hearing good things about the new Seagate Momentus Hybrid Drives (mechanical drive combined with memory chips).  I think I would consider one of these on my next PC.  http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/laptops/laptop-hdd

Rob Kassab
X260 20A7 i7 16GB Win 10 Pro 64 512 SSD Ultradock | X240 20AL-00D7US, i7 8GB Win8.1 Pro 64, 512 SSD, Ultradock | X201 3249-CTO, i7 8GB Win7 Ult 64 Vertex 2 UltraBase | Twist S230u 3347-XF7, i7 8GB 120GB SSD, Win8 Pro | X120e 0596-CTO E350 4GB Win7 Ult 64 Vertex 2 SSD | X200 | T61 | T42 | X31 | T30
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Message 8 of 11

Re: X201 which SSD?

If you used some program to clone the old HDD and restore to a SSD make sure the alignment is correct or the performance will suffer. I'm not sure how it should use less space on a SSD compared to a HDD as long as the block size is the same.

 

You can use this calculator to check if the alignment is correct:

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/157

 

For the Seagate Momentus Hybrid Drives i'm sure it's a nice option to SSD and read that it's fast, but there been several postings in this forum with issues using the Seagate Momentus in a Thinkpad. Not sure if it's the firmware of the drive, BIOS of the Thinkpad or whatever the reason could be, but i would have done a bit reasearch before buying one of these.

 

What SSD did you decide to buy?

 

-gan

robkassab
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Message 9 of 11

Re: X201 which SSD?

I bought the OCZ Vertex (not the new II model).  I have that installed in my x200.  My x201 has the factory installed SSD which runs slower than the Vertex.

Rob Kassab
X260 20A7 i7 16GB Win 10 Pro 64 512 SSD Ultradock | X240 20AL-00D7US, i7 8GB Win8.1 Pro 64, 512 SSD, Ultradock | X201 3249-CTO, i7 8GB Win7 Ult 64 Vertex 2 UltraBase | Twist S230u 3347-XF7, i7 8GB 120GB SSD, Win8 Pro | X120e 0596-CTO E350 4GB Win7 Ult 64 Vertex 2 SSD | X200 | T61 | T42 | X31 | T30
Don_Coyote
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Message 10 of 11

Re: X201 which SSD?

Moving right along...

 

The reason 5400 RPM HDDs are the norm in laptops is that they save power consumption by sacrificing performance. So why do so many SSD discussions revolve around performance speed? The worst thing I've heard about SSDs is that Toms Hardware last year found most to exhibit "unacceptable" power consumption. Are the newer drives doing any better?

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