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Re: X220 BIOS POST time

2011-07-07, 2:49 AM

You can't put the Lenovo-specific firmware on a non-Lenovo-specific device.  I think you would need to go to Intel to get support with their SSD.  It's interesting that your other SSD doesn't have this problem, so I really don't think it's an issue with the X220.

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Re: X220 BIOS POST time

2011-07-07, 4:45 AM

Yeah, it is updated with Intel's latest firmware already. It's rather odd.

 

The interesting thing though is the SSD doesn't cause any slow POST issue when I insert it into my other laptop. Which is why I'm confused?

 

Even though it's Lenovo-specific, assuming it's more a rebranded device with the same controller and NAND, I don't see why I can't put it on a non-Lenovo specific device, since I'm using it on a Lenovo machine anyways.

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Re: X220 BIOS POST time

2011-07-07, 7:19 AM

Ok - as it looks right now we do have several possible reasons for the long boot time:

 

  • TPM enablement. This seems to be confirmed. Someotherguy is still investigating with engineering if this is by design or not.

 

  • Intel X25M SSD may add to POST time as well. Unfortunatly I don't have a HDD to swap into my X220 to test as well. Nevertheless it seems to have an impact. @someotherguy: Can we somehow try to get confirmation on the SSD impact on this?

Anything else?

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Re: X220 BIOS POST time

2011-07-07, 7:31 AM

Chris, can you download Intel SSD Toolbox from Intel's support website and check what firmware revision you have on your SSD?

 

That way I can compare it with mine (the sticker on the outside of the SSD doesn't necessarily tell you the correct firmware version).

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Re: X220 BIOS POST time

2011-07-07, 12:50 PM

chris-x220,

 

The delay caused by TPM=active is a bug that BIOS team found yesterday, as a result of you reporting it here on the forum.  It will probably take a few weeks for a new BIOS to go through the release and test process and eventually make it out to the support website.  The fix will not be in the upcoming July BIOS that is scheduled to be released for other issues.

 

There is a separate delay caused by having 8GB of RAM (as opposed to 4GB) that is still under investigation.  I will report back when I know more about that.

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Re: X220 BIOS POST time

2011-07-07, 13:44 PM

@jyeah: My firmware version is 2CV102M3

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Re: X220 BIOS POST time

2011-07-07, 16:27 PM

@chris-x220,

 

Okay, that's the same firmware I have as well. Your Intel X25-M 160GB came factory installed right?

 

@someotherguy,

 

Can you please run IntelSSDToolBox as well to check the firmware? Just to confirm, because the sticker on the SSD that states the firmware isn't accurate.

 

If the firmware is indeed the same as ours, what can be the problem do you think? Would it be an X220 BIOS issue? Or a problem with our particular SSD's (since I don't have any of the slow POST issue with the C300 and factory HDD)?

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Re: X220 BIOS POST time

2011-07-09, 12:41 PM

wrote:

The interesting thing though is the SSD doesn't cause any slow POST issue when I insert it into my other laptop. Which is why I'm confused?


Sounds like an incompatibility between that SSD's firmware and the X220.

In which case, Lenovo has better resources to investigate it than Intel.

 

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Re: X220 BIOS POST time

2011-07-09, 13:13 PM

wrote:

 

There is a separate delay caused by having 8GB of RAM (as opposed to 4GB) that is still under investigation.  I will report back when I know more about that.


I just put in 8GB of ram into my X220 earlier this week, no issues with longer POST times. Perhaps if the modules are mixed, ie using a lenovo 4GB and an add on 4GB. My machine came with 2GB, and I had the intention of buying two matching 4GB sticks.

 

So far no issues.

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| X220 i7-2620M | 12.5" HD IPS | Intel 180GB SSD | Crucial 480GB mSATA SSD | 8GB DDR3 | Intel 7260 AC |
| X260 i7-6600U | 12.5" FHD IPS | Samsung 860Pro 512GB SSD | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 8260 AC |
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Re: X220 BIOS POST time

2011-07-10, 2:52 AM

With my factory installed X25-M I get about 4 seconds to the appearance of the Thinkpad logo and it stays on for about 2 further seconds prior to going black.

 

My total boot time is about 60 seconds but I do have a large number of processes working and this compares very favorably to the same sofware load giving my 4 minute boot times in my HDD equipped T61.

 

My W520 is about 7-8 seconds to appearance of the Thinkpad logo and that is with aftermarket C300s.

 

 

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W550s I5 QHCD, W520, I7 2720QM, M4 512 GB SSD OS/Program Disk, C300 256 GB Data Disk in Ultrabay Caddy; X220, I7 2620, Samsung 256 GB SSD, Intel 310 mSata Drv, T61, ancient but working, Asus MoBo, I7 2600k overclocked
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