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izzyfanto
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Message 21 of 40

Re: X260 m2 ssd

Valid points. 

 

There's no speed advantage from a m.2 NVMe vs a 2.5" NVMe, right? Just weight and size? I imagine the 2.5" would be cheaper form to buy, plus you wouldn't have to buy a PCIe to m.2 converter. 

 

Do Lenovo reps ever comment on these forums?

TripleX1
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Message 22 of 40

Re: X260 m2 ssd

I'm getting a bit confused by this discution here. NVMe SSDs in 2.5" format are supposed to come with U.2 connector (e.g. Intel 750) but they seem quite a bit taller/fatter so need to wait for some that fit. Perhaps that's why Lenovo does not provide any options - there are none shipping it'd have to be OEM.

 

While there are M.2 to U.2 converters - the cable would need to connect to a PCIe wired socket - is the WWAN M.2 B slot PCIe wired? Or a special connector?

 

Plus PCIe3 x2 only bottlenecks even the old SM951 / i750 which can push over 2GB/s...

 

I'm not sure why Lenovo released a 12.5" platform with 2.5" slot at all? Could have put 2x M.2 slots in there, maybe one B, one M - and fit a bigger battery as well!

 

 

veriton
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Message 23 of 40

Re: X260 m2 ssd


@TripleX1 wrote:

 

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I'm not sure why Lenovo released a 12.5" platform with 2.5" slot at all? Could have put 2x M.2 slots in there, maybe one B, one M - and fit a bigger battery as well!

 


I'm just a casual observer but it seems the X260 is an old chassis design now. I've been looking at the T460s and that has no 2.5" bay (and DDR4 memory). I suspect/hope that at the next CES 2017 we'll see an X270 on a new chassis designed for modern all-flash ultrabooks.

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izzyfanto
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Message 24 of 40

Re: X260 m2 ssd

Yeah I'm sure x270 will be a different beast. Which could be a blessing or a curse. I'm actually happy I purchased my x260 before the change. It is a solid design, great features, and I'm glad it's thicker do to thermal head room and a deep keyboard. Plus I got a good deal on mine, which makes it sweeter. I worry about the thinner is better movement. It has to stop before all we're left with is a piece of paper folded in half with a keyboard and screen sharpied on.

 

Anyways, thanks for the research, very helpful for the future when I upgrade my 2.5 SATA.

TripleX1
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Message 25 of 40

Re: X260 m2 ssd

I personally find thinner better to type on as the height the arms are raised only a little - assuming your chair is set at the height that your arms lay on the desk/whatever naturally.

 

But I'm not saying make it thinner, 2.5" just takes too much space in a 12" chassis - not just height wise; if they did it for capacity then might as well have 2 (SO)DIMM slots. The display assembly seem to be very thin in the latest models no wonder there are so many 'white spots' reports...

TripleX1
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Message 26 of 40

Re: X260 m2 ssd

Forgot that there are some 2.5" RAID boards that take either mSATA or M.2 SSDs - not as good as native/Intel (J-Micron I think we had some) - but it is an option for capacity/redundancy. But you're limited by a single SATA link to host...

veriton
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Message 27 of 40

Re: X260 m2 ssd

Disgressing, but yes, the 2 SODIMMs slots have been keeping me on my X220 since it was a while before 16GB modules ones appeared which would allow me to upgrade to a 1 SODIMM model (I've had 2x8GB on my X220 for about 4 years). Removing the 2.5" bay would save a lot of space - having 2 slots in an X270 would be a real treat! (unlike T460s which has 4GB soldered plus one slot)

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PaulDash
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Message 28 of 40

Re: X260 m2 ssd

In a similar situation here as one of the first posters - had a X220 with 16GB RAM and 2 SSDs. This unfortunately failed. Bought an X260 after being assured by the salesperson that my one SSD will plug into the internal slot.

 

Surprise, it's M.2 and not mSATA. Being ignorant of hardware specs, I bought a M.2 SATA 2242 card which fits but obviously doesn't work.

 

What's the best / easiest / cheapest (choose two) option for getting two drives into my X260? I need extra capacity plus the higher throughput of two disks for my virtualization environments.

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Message 29 of 40

Re: X260 m2 ssd

PaulDash,

neither x260 platform specification nor laptop's parts list mention the 2nd drive installation capabilities and appropriate parts. It means:
- m.2 wwan slot hasn't SATA lanes routed
- the dedicated m.2 slot on the optional subcard under internal battery (like x240/250 have) is missing.



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PaulDash
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Message 30 of 40

Re: X260 m2 ssd

Yep, so is there any way to get two drives in there?

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