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X270 and NVME

2020-02-11, 15:06 PM

Foolishly I thought the nvme support included the built in WWAN port which hosts M2 2242 form factor M key drives.

 

So, I have this drive:-

 

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07XVTRFF8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Now I have been googling for hours and simply can't find what I need to plug this into the x270. The information on the Lenovo m2 adaptor doesn't specify if it supports M key, nvme/PCIE or anything, General forums are also full of conflicting advice.

 

So, what do I need to purchase, from Lenovo or elsewhere, to use this M2 2242 NVME drive inside my x270?

 

Many thanks, and apologies if I have missed something obvious!

 

regards

 

r.

 

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Re: X270 and NVME

2020-02-12, 3:02 AM

Good Day,

I believe you would need a caddy, something like this

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/memory-and-storage/storage/HDD-BO-ThinkPad-M-2-SSD-Tray/p/4XF0N82414

 

if you have a look at your hardware manual, it does show how to replace your HDD with a NVMe.

https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/x270_hmm_en_sp40j65511_03.pdf

Page 71

 

Hope this helps.

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Re: X270 and NVME

2020-02-12, 6:56 AM

Thanks for the reply but unfortunately it doesn't help.

 

That item says it's for a t470 and doesn't specify which SSD tech it supports as I mentioned in my OP and there are no close ups to guess.

 

The lenovo support on this borders on abysmal.

 

As a side note, the cable doesn't look long enough for the 270 either.

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Re: X270 and NVME

2020-02-12, 7:14 AM

Good Day,


I sent you the caddy link as an example and I thought you might do a search on your own for the compatible one.

 

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/memory-and-storage/storage/MECH-BO-TP-X270-M-2-Tray/p/4XF0Q58851

 

I am not sure what you mean when you say "Lenovo m2 adaptor doesn't specify if it supports M key, nvme/PCIE or anything"

M2 is the form factor of the SSD and it comes in various sizes, 2282, 2260, etc (numbers are directly related to the physical size of the SSD)

NVMe (Non-Volatile Memory Express) is an interface protocol built especially for Solid State Drives (SSDs)

PCIe (Peripheral Component Interconnect Express) is an interface standard for connecting high-speed components.

Are you asking if the M.2 Tray is for M.2 SATA for M.2 NVMe? 

From the picture, it looks like it fits a NVMe connector

 


I would suggest that you call and ask your local lenovo support.

 

Hope this helps.

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Re: X270 and NVME

2020-02-12, 7:36 AM
rileyrg,

x270' wwan port supports SATA drive only, not PCIe NVMe one you have. Any adapter doesn't help to use such drive in that slot.

So, the only way is to install the drive into the 2.5" bay via adapter for m.2 PCIe NVMe drive and cable. gives correct advice. But there is new difficulty - since that m.2 adapter carries 2280 drive only, you'll need to perform something hand made to fix the 2242 drive in the adapter. One of the way is to drill a hole in PCB and insert a threaded bush to fix a drive. Or use a hot glue or something else.



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Re: X270 and NVME

2020-02-12, 7:42 AM
I see another difficulty. The 2242 drive on the 1st your link is double sided. The adapter is suitable for single sided drive I'm sure. So, there is a chance your drive will be placed in the adapter's socket with bias, it's unacceptably. So, it's a subject to check out.



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Re: X270 and NVME

2020-02-12, 11:53 AM

Yes I know the WWAN socket only supports SATA hence trying to source the correct caddy and cable. Alas it wasn't clear from the literature. Many thanks.

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Re: X270 and NVME

2020-02-12, 11:56 AM

Yes I am asking that as I said: we dont know if the caddy is SATA or NVME. There is no data there on the product page. And clearly I have been googling and trying to locate the nvme caddy and cable but the only places I can source one that is marked as for an x270 is from China. Also the one linked (the only one they seem to offer) is tagged as for t470 and x270 And , as I mentioned above, that cable pictured wont reach around to the x270 motherboard connection point.

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Re: X270 and NVME

2020-02-12, 12:37 PM
Lenovo service p/ns (FRUs) for x270:
01HY565 - m.2 [to 2.5"] adapter for SSD
01HW969 - cable for PCIe SSD [for adapter above]



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Re: X270 and NVME

2020-02-12, 14:47 PM

Good Day @rileyrg,

 

I think based on what everyone has shared so far

1) the levono caddy is for M.2 NVMe and not M.2 SATA

2) the caddy is for single side M.2 NVMe and not the double side SSD that you have purchased

 

In case you are not sure, I went to the sabrent website to see 

https://www.sabrent.com/product/SB-1342-1TB/1tb-rocket-nvme-pcie-m-2-2242-dram-less-low-power-internal-high-performance-ssd/

 

 

Hence, the official Lenovo part is not compatible with the SSD you purchased (please verify this with your local technical support)

 

I agree that Lenovo could have done better to include all relevant information. I do not work for Lenovo, so I am not sure about how they do things but I will also feedback to mine to inform them of this lapse. So everyone can benefit from this, afterall, that is why there is this forum for sharing.

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