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K__R
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x230 WWAN for UK (4G/3G)

Hi All, 

 

With reference to https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/X230-Laptop-4G-LTE-in-the-UK/m-p/2258754#M681... - trying to find a Lenovo FRU 04W3821 is like trying to find Rocking Horse doodah....

 

What other options are there for UK based WWAN cards ?

 

i.e. the next best thing ?

 

I'd love to have my x230 be 4G capable, however, I'd settle for a decent, and working 3G.

I've got the cables internally - just not the card.

 

I've found one that is being advertised as ... "60Y3255 60Y3279 04W3767"

 

Another as "60Y3297"

Another as "04W3786, 60Y3297" - stated as same model.

And finally - a " 04W3767"

 

I am not 100% sure about GPS or not - I use Linux, not Windows, so don't know if that would work, I guess, if there is a GPS that works (especially under Linux) then that would be a bonus, not a necessity.

 

TIA

 

K__R

 

 

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Re: x230 WWAN for UK (4G/3G)

Welcome to the Community

> What other options are there for UK based WWAN cards ?

with 3g+LTE capabilities? In UK and for x230 - nothing else, only mc7710.

> I'd settle for a decent, and working 3G.

Ericsson H5321
Sierra Wireless mc8355 (Gobi 3000)

I'd not recommend to use Ericsson F5521 as it might be a firmware quality lottery, this modem is very old.

> I've found one that is being advertised as ... "60Y3255 60Y3279 04W3767"

60Y3255 - Ericsson F5521gw
60Y3279 - F5521gw, Vodafone & AT&T SKU
04W3767 - F5521gw, Japan SKU
60Y3297, 04W3786 - the same, H5321. The FRU differs because of its coding format changes

One more Ericsson' modem:
60Y3277 - F5521gw, Vodafone SKU

Missed modems:
60Y3257, 04W3785 - the same, Sierra mc8355 (Gobi 3000)

GPS receiver should work via modem' antenna AUX port. WWAN modem sends the data to the system via NMEA serial port if the driver is present. The location application or driver or some tool should be capable to control (turn on/off) the GPS receiver. It's possible to do that via serial port of the modem using AT command but I don't know it for Ericsson modems.

 

Edit: typo


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K__R
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Re: x230 WWAN for UK (4G/3G)

Thanks x220forme, 

 

That's a great start.

 

I take it the MC7710 has to be the Lenovo FRU - otherwise the BIOS won't let it work ?

 

If not that one - then either...

 

60Y3297 / 04W3786

or

60Y3257, 04W3785

 

Cheers

 

K__R

 

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Re: x230 WWAN for UK (4G/3G)

> I take it the MC7710 has to be the Lenovo FRU - otherwise the BIOS won't let it work ?

yes... if you can't or won't perform some efforts and actions in order to adapt a Sierra generic modem mc7710 or its branded versions for another laptop vendors (Dell, HP, Apple etc). Of course, these actions aren't official. The advantage of non Lenovo' branded modems mc7710 purchasing is their lower price.

The choosing between H5321 and mc8355 depends on:
- your mobility as the 1st modem supports WCDMA/HSPA/EDGE/GPRS networks (Europe and most countries) while mc8355 supports CDMA/EV-DO networks also, mainly in the USA and partially in Asia and some coutries. I.e.mc8355 can work almost worldwide

- H5321 is a bit faster: DL speed 21 Mbps / UL 5.76 Mbps vs 14.4 Mbps / 5.76 Mbps of mc8355

- both modems are stable, reliable enough, can work under Linux (AFAIK). The only relative disadvantage of mc8355 is its firmware management method. This modem has specific fw images for a lot of cellular carriers like Vodafone, Verizon, T-Mobile etc (about 10 in total), as well as the generic fw image for almost any WCDMA/UMTS cellular carrier. Apropriate fw image has to be applied (loaded in modem) depending on the carrier. Not every SIM card can force to do it in the automatically mode, so the driver or connection manager has to do it (or to change it) itself. Fortunately, it's a well done task by Linux users.

- of course, both these modems are cheaper than any mc7710 one in the aftermarket.

Note: as H5321 is a half sized modem, you have to have special adapter in order to fix the modem in x230' wwan slot. Usually the H5321 sellers offer that adapter in the kit:
https://ssli.ebayimg.com/images/g/N5kAAOSwMNxXWb89/s-l640.jpg

So, up to your choice. )


x220 • Gobi 2000 3g  |  x220 • hdd, msata ssd, 3g, wifi, gps -- unique hand-made config
x1c Gen3 (2015) • WQHD MT IPS, PCIe ssd
Miix 2 10"  |  Yoga Tablet 2-1050F (Android 5.0), BKC800 BT Keyboard, FolioCase
ThinkPad Stack • 2.4/5 wireless router, hdd 1 TB, BT speaker, power bank

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