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Re: Helix Fans Always Running

2013-07-27, 15:23 PM

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The Helix is, after all, a top performing tablet and those components require a lot of power and, therefore, must dissipate the heat generated from the power.

I totally agree with you. That said, engineers at Lenovo could certainly design a more silent fan.


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Re: Helix Fans Always Running

2013-07-27, 16:47 PM

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The Helix is, after all, a top performing tablet and those components require a lot of power and, therefore, must dissipate the heat generated from the power.

I totally agree with you. That said, engineers at Lenovo could certainly design a more silent fan.


 

I am quite confident devices like these, and most all emerging technology, will continue to push the envelope and ultimately lead to innovative solutions and improved designs for many components

However, I am quite satisfied with current design and implementation. The Helix is an easy 9/10, with only a margin of improvement. I have drank the Kool-Aid, so to speak.

Again, though, the fans in my unit are barely a whisper in most day to day use and within expectations under heavy usage. My unit is, obviously, not defective.

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Re: Helix Fans Always Running

2013-07-27, 17:16 PM

I got mine in Norway; 3698-6CG. 

 

The fan is running pretty much always when docked. It works perfect when un-docked. Temperature is about 55-62c. It's pretty hot here now too. So I won't be sending it in because of fan noise. For now anyway. But the fan I think when docked is a tad noisy for using it during a lecture. I have the fan control program that helps. I don't like using it. But I think it's safe. 

 

 

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Re: Helix Fans Always Running

2013-07-27, 23:12 PM

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I am quite confident devices like these, and most all emerging technology, will continue to push the envelope and ultimately lead to innovative solutions and improved designs for many components


The future of cooling technology:

 

http://www.genewscenter.com/Press-Releases/GE-Cooling-Technology-As-Thin-As-A-Credit-Card-Enables-Ultra-thin-Tablets-Laptops-3cf6.aspx


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Re: Helix Fans Always Running

2013-07-28, 21:06 PM

OK, here's the thing, Bermbeard. I bought a Helix for number of different uses, as Lenovo show in their ads - not just because it is 'a top performing tablet.' I agree, as a tablet it's fine, but once docked those fans are on constantly (the reason for which has yet to be explained by Lenovo - I've checked temperatures docked and undocked and there seems little correlation with the dock fans. As a notebook, it's fine in a noisy environment but it is rather loud and intrusive in quiet one to one meetings. I too have been a ThinkPad user since IBM and quietness was one of the attractions, along of course with build quality.

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Re: Helix Fans Always Running

2013-07-28, 22:01 PM

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OK, here's the thing, Bermbeard. I bought a Helix for number of different uses, as Lenovo show in their ads - not just because it is 'a top performing tablet.' I agree, as a tablet it's fine, but once docked those fans are on constantly (the reason for which has yet to be explained by Lenovo - I've checked temperatures docked and undocked and there seems little correlation with the dock fans. As a notebook, it's fine in a noisy environment but it is rather loud and intrusive in quiet one to one meetings. I too have been a ThinkPad user since IBM and quietness was one of the attractions, along of course with build quality.


Here's the thing, s47896, not everyone is experiencing the issue you and a few others are describing in this,  and other,  thread(s).


You're making assumptions that it's a product failure, when 's possible --even probable-- that your unit is just defective.

I'm quite sure you're also not the only Helix user to purchase it with different uses in mind.



 

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Re: Helix Fans Always Running

2013-07-28, 22:40 PM

@s47896

 

ThinkPad users (not all of them, fortunately) have been facing this problem for at least 10 years. To see for yourself, take a look at this page:

 

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_fan_noise

 

I'm just pointing this out, not saying that there is no solution.


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Re: Helix Fans Always Running

2013-07-29, 1:40 AM

I tried both an i7 and an i5 model of the Helix. Both, at least for me, exhibited unacceptably loud fan noise. I am coming from an x220 with the i7 and that model had a very linear fan curve. As the heat increased, the x220 fans would kick on and they could get loud - but it was predictable.

 

The Helix, on both the i7 that I returned, and my replacement i5 model, have unacceptably loud fan noise. The problem is worse when the tablet is docked with the keyboard. The fans will come on before the sensors show CPU temperature above 50 degrees celsius. TPFancontrol fixes this but my concern is that the fans are on for a REASON. For example, if the fans are on to protect part of the tablet that does not have a temperature sensor, then Lenovo needs to tell us so that we do not TURN OFF the fans using tpfc and damage some components in the device... If the fans DO NOT need to be on so loud, then Lenovo - hurry up and issue a BIOS fix. You know it is a problem when major review sites are commenting on excessive fan noise... check the pcmag.com review.

 

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Re: Helix Fans Always Running

2013-07-29, 7:42 AM

Do the fans have any influence on the temperature? In my case they make noise but don't really cool anything down. The temparature is basically the same as with the fans stoped.

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Re: Helix Fans Always Running

2013-07-29, 7:50 AM

My experience with tpfc was, even when setting the fans to 1, the lowest possible setting aside from off, they're too loud.

 

On the other side, I was at a friends place, we were playing a round of warcraft 3, a nearly 10 year old game.

It runs without as much as a hickup on my x200 tablet with a core2duo.

I mean, hell. it ran on my 800 mhz p3.

Using the bios fancurve, it was unplayable on my new i7 helix because it kept throtling the * out of the cpu.

Only when forcing the fans to maximum, it was barely playable often more lagging than not.

 

I don't mind not playing any aaa titles on a machine i bought for work, but why should it be a lot slower than my old x200t. 

 

Other than that i absolutely love the helix, eventhough the touchpad is too big to comfortably use the trackpoint.

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