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davide445
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Update or change x220

Own a 2011 old Lenovo x220, with 8GB RAM, 320GB HDD changed in 2012, Win7Pro, last year I changed the IPS display, added a 256GB mSATA SSD as boot drive, changed the battery. Using it for web, Office, Visio, light DTP, is working fine for my needs.

But: the SSD (a cheap MydigitalSSD BP4) is giving me problems periodically with chdisk forced at boot checking and finding corrupted records, CrystalDiskInfo says the HDD is at risk, the chassis has small breaks, the battery is probably mis-calibrated and create uncommanded shutdown with 1.5h last autonomy, the CPU is heating normally a lot.

Wondering if make sense to just update/fix some components such as change the HDD and have a quality 500GB SSD, maybe reinstall Win7 (never done, with a lot of programs installed/uninstalled in the meantime, so the registry need to be a mess), recalibrate the battery, or I'm at risk even if the components need to be all high quality. Maybe the mSATA is starting working badly, the overheating CPU is creating problems, or something else is coming from the age and will create only more and more problems.

I'm not interested into more performances and i.e. the x270 is not so different for my usage, didn't want to invest without any reason and avoid the troubles to migrate programs and data, something needing weeks to settle.

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Re: Update or change x220

Well, fixing those issues is perfectly doable and I don't think you will need to spend too much money.

 

  • The overheating CPU can be fixed by replacing the old thermal paste with a good quality one like Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut or Artic Cooling MX2/MX4. That won't cost too much, but you will need to disassembly your X220 almost completely
  • Replacing the 2.5" SSD will not be that expensive either. Since you already have a mSata as boot drive, you could as alternative put a spinning HDD if you want so save some €. Replacing it is very easy.
  • Reinstalling Win7 is also a good idea, will cost you only your time for backups and reinstall
  • Recalibrating the battery is a good idea as well, finding a genuine replacement battery shouldn't be that expensive in case the recalibration does not bring any big improvements in battery life

Other things you can do:

 

  • Upgrade the RAM to 16GB (DDR3-RAM is still cheap). Very easy to do.
  • Replacing the broken plastic parts with new ones from eBay/Amazon, etc. Which part of the chasis is broken?

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Re: Update or change x220

My major concern is the motherboard or his components (i.e. the mSATA interface) failing.

I can finish replacing other component such as chassis or disk, but how much lifespan does have a mobo?

Also consider my best alternative is purchasing a new X270 for about 50% of his price since the other part will be funded from the company, so didn't make sense to invest in a complete replacement of all parts. 

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Re: Update or change x220


@davide445 wrote:

but how much lifespan does have a mobo? 


Difficult to say, I have some ThinkPads from the 90's which are still working as day 1, and I had other models having motherboards dying on me after several months use.

 


@davide445 wrote:

Also consider my best alternative is purchasing a new X270 for about 50% of his price since the other part will be funded from the company, so didn't make sense to invest in a complete replacement of all parts. 


Do you still have warranty on your X220? If your ThinkPad is important for work, the option you mention above sounds very interesting, (specially since there are models with FHD screen)

 

One more thing to consider, the overheat problem has a low cost in terms of what you need to buy, but a higher risk of damaging something if you're not careful enough or don't have much experience.

 

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Re: Update or change x220

Here are some readings from various tools, the CPU temp is in normal conditions, is supposed to be high?

http://imgur.com/a/vGny6

 

No warranty left on the x220, was also a corporate laptop I received for private and professional usage.

 

x220 is my unique working laptop, worked on all the projects I've done since 2011 using it extensivelly day and night.

Also used for multimedia experiments with eGPU setup with a desktop grade external GPU connected, need to say worked also in that conditions.

 

Maybe that's another point: I was using this laptop a lot, also in some unusal conditions, installing and disintalling hundered of programs for my various needs. Now I've settled down to a normal usage shifting the other work on a PC, so just need to understand if in current conditions is a workable even if used laptop or some cracked ruin waiting for a failure.

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62°C on idle is not that bad, although a little bit "highish". What's the temperature on high load?

 

While I can't know how long your X220 will last, generally speaking ThinkPads are very sturdy, so I think with few tweaks like a new SSD and a reinstall will be a positive improvement.

 

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Re: Update or change x220

These are the temp after 1min of 100% load (h265 conversion using Handbrake)

SpeedFan load.JPG

After this the temp settled at about 72C.

For sure I can change the SSD that I can later use for a new laptop, and also change the exterior degraded parts.

Make sense to change also the mobo, and will be difficult to switch the CPU? Or will be better just to clean the CPU heatsink?

Also I didn't have Win7 license since was a corporate one, will be possible to recover it in some way so I can reuse for the new installation?

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Re: Update or change x220

Well, those temps are definitely on the higher side.

 

I would advise to clean the heatsink and replace the old thermal paste with a new good quality one. This is a small investment and after that you can see how the notebook works and if you're happy you can keep upgrading the SSD and plastic parts.

 

The CPU is soldered, you cannot replace it.

 

I can't comment much on how to create a recovery, I know is perfectly possible but unfortunately I never did this myself :-/ 

 

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Re: Update or change x220

I'd agree that your idle temperatures are higher than I'd expect on an X220.

As for the SSD, try reseating it just to make sure it's not a wonky connection. Also check the warranty on it; some brands have a fair few years of coverage.

Recalibrating the battery is also fairly easy if you're running Windows; just use the recalibration feature in Power Manager (Windows 7) or the newer Lenovo Settings (newer Windows OSes).

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