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SAS Solid State Drives in Lenovo D30

2020-06-29, 22:10 PM

Hello,

I recently purchased two SAS-SSD's (HSCP0480S5xnNMRI) that are meant for an HPE Storeserv 20000. I know that the Lenovo D30 does support SAS drives, but only with the "HDD enablement module." I attempted to search for this module online but had trouble finding one that actually supported my specific machine (4353). 

 

For example, I found this one: https://www.m4l.com/03T8428-Lenovo-Storage-Accessories  which lists it as not supporting the 4353 and $120, which seems pretty steep for a simple little card. Is there a way that I can use these two SSD's without the card? The card, from what I can tell, only affects the 5 blue SATA slots, so are the Orange SATA slots able to naturally support SAS drives without the special module. 

 

Even if I did get the module and installed it, would the computer even recognize the SAS-SSDs? I read through some other parts of this forum where psuturtle said that the D30 had some trouble with non 15k SAS drives and I wonder if SSDs would also give an error or just now show up. I would also appreciate if someone could find the part number that I could use to track one of these modules down (I have the Thinkstation D30 4353).

 

 

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Re:SAS Solid State Drives in Lenovo D30

2020-06-29, 23:18 PM

I did a bit more research and found the module under the original option code 4XH0F46092. I still however can't seem to find any marketplace that has them in stock currently and it seems like I am out of options. It doesn't seem like there is much going on the little expansion card at all, so if there is a schematic online of it I would use that as a last resort.

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Re:SAS Solid State Drives in Lenovo D30

2020-06-30, 23:33 PM

I did more research and found that under the pdf in this link: https://it-parts.ru/files/data/uploads/58c67b7992995.pdf that the part number is actually 03T8426.  I see a couple of venders that carry this item but would like some input before I purchase it whether this will let me use an SAS SSD or just the 10k Lenovo SAS HDDs. I don't see why the HP SSD would not work once the module is installed but want to be certain before I buy it. Please someone provide input of any kind. Regards

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Re:SAS Solid State Drives in Lenovo D30

2020-07-01, 14:39 PM

Sorry for the delay in getting a response on this.  In order to get SAS HDD's working on the D30 system, you'll need a "SAS HDD Enablement Module" that allows for SAS HDD support on the blue SCU ports on the motherboard.  

 

The FRU P/N for the SAS HDD Enablement Module that you'll need is: 03T8427.

 

 

Unfortunately, I'm having a hard time trying to find where you can get this part from for your D30 system.  Let me do some internal investigation to see if there's something we can do to help.  

 

 

The other option you could do to get SAS HDD's working in your D30 is to utilize an LSI 9240/9260 adapter. These will most likely be a little more expensive but should be available.  

 

LSI 9240 - FRU: 03T6739

 

LSI 9260 - FRU: 03X3744

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Re:SAS Solid State Drives in Lenovo D30

2020-07-01, 16:57 PM

Thank you for the response. I had a lot of trouble finding the HDD Enablement Module as well, so I just went ahead and bought the LSI 9260-8i. This is the first time that I am working with a PCI-based storage system, so I am curious if the computer is able to boot off of it. My ultimate goal is to make the computer run off of only the SAS SSDs, so is it possible to remove the only HDD and install windows to boot off of the SAS SSDs? Thank you for your help!

 

By the way, I did find some websites claiming to sell these parts but I did some research on them and it does seem like the majority of them perform a "bait and switch," where they lure customers in, take your money, and say that the costs changed and that you need to pay them more to actually receive it. I found an LSI 9260-8i for just $20, and recommend this over trying to dig around the internet to find the "HDD SAS enablement module"

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Re:SAS Solid State Drives in Lenovo D30

2020-07-01, 18:57 PM

Two things to note here:

  • SAS SSDs aren't PCIe based storage.  I assume for PCIe based storage you are referencing NVMe drives.  D30 never officially supported those, and I suspect you'd run into significant trouble in trying to boot to them in that platform as the BIOS hooks to support NVMe boot simply aren't there.

 

  • Using the 9260 should be OK.  Just be aware that the 9260 uses miniSAS cabling out from the card.  So in order to support your SAS SSDs, you're going to want to make sure you purchase the appropriate miniSAS --> SATA/SAS breakout cable to make the proper signal connections.  Typically these exist such that each miniSAS port on the LSI card will break out into 4 SATA/SAS connectors, but it's key to make sure you have the right cable.  You can use the existing SATA power drops in D30 for the drives.

 

Unfortunately due to the age of the platform, it seems like the various HDD enablement modules are becoming much more difficult to locate.  This was a solid solution for it's time as it was a fairly inexpensive and somewhat integrated method of getting SAS support if needed.  Going the discrete controller route is certainly a solid option if you can't find the modules, especially given how inexpensive some of those older (but still good performing) controllers are these days.




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Re:SAS Solid State Drives in Lenovo D30

2020-07-02, 0:55 AM

Is this the right cable? I got Internal Mini SAS to SAS 8482 Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018YHS9AI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1 This cable seems to be the right connector. I was never able to get the exact port that the 9260 uses online and has to guess if this was the right cable based off of the reviews. Best wishes

 

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Re:SAS Solid State Drives in Lenovo D30

2020-07-02, 13:31 PM

I think that one might work, but obviously can't guarantee it.


For SAS support on D30, we handled it a little differently when it came to cabling.  SAS drive connectors were supported with a small SATA/SAS adapter that plugged directly to the SAS drive and converted the signaling such that standard SATA cabling could be used between the host port and that adapter.  For the case with LSI controllers, use used a simple miniSAS --> 4 x SATA breakout cable, and then utilized up to 4 of those adapters to handle SAS drives as needed.

 

Those SATA/SAS adapters are also getting hard to find.  So hopefully the cable you linked will be suitable.  Note that I think you can get away with the shorter 1.6' cable.  The 3.3' cable will probably be overkill in the D30 chassis.  You'll end up just having to find somewhere to route all that extra cabling.

 




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