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Lenovo RapidDrive

2011-11-08, 21:43 PM

I have dual hard drives in my W520, a SSD as the main drive with Windows, programs, and certain folders, and a traditional HDD where I store all my files, music, etc.  Today I installed some updates through the Lenovo ThinkVantage Toolbox, one of which was Lenovo RapidDrive (I don't know if this was an update or new software).  After restarting I was greeted with the message that it had "automatically placed the following user libraries and folders on the HDD", folders such as Desktop, My Documents, Downloads, etc.

 

Firstly, this is horrible default behaviour.  I don't want my folders being moved around without asking me first.  I have them organized as they are for good reasons, eg. I want my Desktop stored on the SSD.  My Dropbox folder was in My Documents and when it got moved with My Documents, somehow everything in my Dropbox folder was deleted, fortunately Dropbox lets you undelete files.  Sometimes I remove the HDD to insert the optical drive, and if I did that now my Desktop (and other files and folders I want) would dissappear.

 

Second, how can I move everything back to where it was originally, and turn off this feature?  Should I just manually move the folders back?

 

[Edit: I tried moving the folders back to their original locations but after restarting, RapidDrive "helpfully" moved them back to the HDD again.  So is the only option to just uninstall RapidDrive or can I turn off this feature?]

 

I may use the RapidDrive Advanced feature, which caches frequently used files from the HDD onto the SSD, but I definately don't want entire folders automatically moved.

 

[Edit 2: I uninstalled and it gave the option to move everything back to it's original location, so that was good!  I'll wait and see if Lenovo makes some changes to RapidDrive then maybe reinstall.]

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Re: Lenovo RapidDrive

2011-11-09, 5:44 AM

I agree that this default behavior is horrible!! I was shocked to see my whole "personalized" folder moved around. It took me a while to "uninstall" RapidDrive and to undo what RapidDrive had messed up with my configuration. This has never happened before in the IBM ThinkPad days. Please think twice when you deal with the "professional" line of your product!

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Re: Lenovo RapidDrive

2011-11-09, 9:46 AM
Well in your scenario i think you should not install this tool, because this tool is focused on little bit different scenario that you have. Rapid drive is prepared for scenario, where you have small SSD and big HDD permanently in your laptop. Then rapiddrive makes one big drive (system do not see 2 drives, but only one), such a kind of RAID, which is automatically managed by rapiddrive tool. Tool then automatically move files internaly between SSD and HDD to make the system as fast as possible. But important is, both discs must be permanently available in the laptop. If not, then you should not use this tool.
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Re: Lenovo RapidDrive

2011-11-09, 15:42 PM

pleon,

 

Actually what you said is not true, the "RapidDrive Advanced" software for thinkpad (what this thread is about) does not combine SSD + HDD into one virtual drive.  Instead it tries to help the user migrate their libraries from the default location on SSD to the HDD.  There is still C: and D: drive, even using "RapidDrive Advanced" software.

 

biznatch and thitiv,

 

Clearly this software is not suitable for power users like yourself who have already moved their libraries to non-default locations.  It was Lenovo's mistake not to consider this type of user.  The intent of the software is for the preload case, or for the non-technical user who doesn't know how to move their libraries manually like you did.  We're sorry for the inconvenience and we are taking your feedback seriously.

 

 

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Re: Lenovo RapidDrive

2011-11-09, 15:56 PM

@someotherguy,

 

Thank you very much :)

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Re: Lenovo RapidDrive

2011-11-10, 11:48 AM
Well, ok, rapiddrive is something else then rapiddrive advancedm anyway in both stories expectation is that BOTH discs are permanently to disposition, thats important to know and that was the problem i think.
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Re: Lenovo RapidDrive

2011-11-10, 18:26 PM

@someotherguy

 

What is the main benefit of installing this software. I couldn't locate a good description (beyond the README) of why I would want to use this on a system with mSata + HDD. CAn you please point me to a fuller descriprion?

 

Update: I found a link to a description of the tool, but it shows a "virtual C: drive" which is the mSata SSD + an HDD partition.

My assumption was that the user folders would go to the HDD in an existing partition. Here's the link:

 

http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/uk/en/HintsandTips/ShowDoc.aspx?ID=12870415982811

 


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Re: Lenovo RapidDrive

2011-11-10, 18:45 PM

harrisb,

 

The benefit to you is probably nothing.  I'm sure you already have your OS, apps, and most frequently accessed files on your SSD, and other files on your HDD.  I think the intent is for the user who buys a system with mSATA SSD and adds HDD to the configuration, either at the factory or later on.

 

Below is the "introduction" text in the help file installed by the application...

 

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Lenovo RapidDrive Advanced provides optimized storage and system performance by placing critical operating system and application files on the faster storage provided by the solid state drive (SSD). To optimize storage capacity, key User Libraries and folders are placed on the larger hard disk drive (HDD).

 

In addition, your most frequently used files are automatically backed up to the SSD. This feature provides redundancy for these files and emergency recovery in case of a HDD failure.

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Re: Lenovo RapidDrive

2011-11-10, 18:50 PM

OK, thanks for the update. The RapidDrive Advanced was automatically offered by the System Update tool. That should be changed as it could lead to unexpected consequences as you've pointed out.


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Re: Lenovo RapidDrive

2011-11-10, 19:47 PM

wrote:

OK, thanks for the update. The RapidDrive Advanced was automatically offered by the System Update tool. That should be changed as it could lead to unexpected consequences as you've pointed out.


Totally agree... and I've made that request.  Thanks for your feedback.

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