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Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-02, 13:28 PM

Any chance of seeing this app released for Win 10?  It was skipped in 8.1.  How about 10?

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-04, 11:03 AM

I found a tool writtne by german developer (but he shut down his site - thinkutils.de). However i saved this tool and uploaded on the speedyshare

 

http://www.speedyshare.com/2fqhC/PM-2.0.1.zip

 

In Windows 8.1 with everythig updated it works like a charm. However, can you chceck if it's working with Windows 10 :)

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-04, 13:15 PM

Thanks for that.

 

My interest in PM is to be able to set battery charging thresholds.  Does this app do that, and do it reliably? 

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-04, 18:09 PM

It was designed to do it :) It's working and it's stable. Using for half a year and no problems on Windows 8.1. But it needs Power Management Driver and Lenovo Settings Dependecny Pack.

 

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-05, 10:53 AM

Good news.

 

I don't read Polski.  Can you give a brief description of those various sections?  Thanks!

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-05, 13:12 PM

"To increase the battery lifespan the charging will start under 26% and stop when the counter reaches 100%" in free translation. Lenovo Settings app says that I've changed battery thresholds. Can you confirm if this tool is working under Windows 10? If you are using it of course :)

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-05, 14:11 PM

I want to stop the charging at 80%.  Can I do that with this app?

 

I'm NOT using Win 10.  I'm looking for a battery app for when the upgrade happens.

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-05, 14:14 PM

Yes you can :)

 

So we have to wait until sb else will check it for us. 

 

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-05, 15:19 PM

Bravo.

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-06, 15:35 PM

Thinkpad T420s 4173PZ8, with ssd and with additional 4GB of RAM (8GB total) running Win 10 Build 10162. Laptop is 4 years old (and to be honest with this class of hardware it is like new).

 

Let's talk about this topic first - no, the custom PowerManager dont't work.

 

After installing PowerManagement driver from win 8.1 and Lenovo Settings Dependency Package from win 8.1 (there are no win 10 versions of this drivers/programs) you can theoretically set the battery charge level tresholds, but battery is charged to 100%  (or to percentage value set in PowerManager in win 7) regardless of values set in this win 8.1 custom PowerManager.

 

Some people might be interested what about overall driver support on this model etc.

Win 10 works on my T420s with SSD insanely fast., but some hardware don't want to work regardless of insalled drivers (well, I can understand it, at this moment everything is in beta stage).

 

What is not working?

  • Ericsson F5521gw WWAN modem - drivers installed (don't remember, but from win 8.1 i think) but win 10 don't see any networks (maybe due to next point).
  • ThinkVantage access connections - you can install this software but the cruicial thing on it don't work very well - you can't turn on thw WWAN modem, and there are some problems with remembering bluetooth on/off settings.
  • Hotkeys - some works, some not, some stopped working after installation of Lenovo Settings Dependency Package - volume controlls, speakers mute, screen brightness, lock, sleep and hibernate works, microphone mute and projector settings (FN+F7, but on win 10 it opened windows settings of cloning display etc.) stopped working, rest of hotkeys don't work. Also I don't tested play/pause hotkeys.
  • ThinkVantage CommunicationsUtility - Installs, but that's all - can't start, hotkey don't work.
  • Fingerprint reader - works, but lenovo app to enroll fingerprints don't. It's not a big problem - windows handle it well.
  • GPS - don't work because of F5521gw problems I think.
  • PowerManager.

That's all. I hope I don't skipped anything.

 

Also, I hope that lenovo would't make the same mistake again and will port everything (software and drivers) from win 7, win 8 and win 8.1 laptops. Because if not, in next few years there won't be such thing as "ThinkPad legend" and we will have our powerful machines (in tasks for which they were designed) with old unsupported systems: win 7 on which all fo lenovo software works fine, or suppoorted win 10 on which there will be massive problems with drivers and poorly written software without many functionalities which was in the same software in win 7.

 

Go Lenovo and show us that you respect people who bought your best and most expensive laptops.

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-07, 12:30 PM

So the STOP threshold doesn't work?  It only goes to 100%?

 

Also, I don't understand this part: 

 

"(or to percentage value set in PowerManager in win 7)"

 

How is the Win 7 value carried over?

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-07, 13:36 PM

Yes, stop treshold doesn't work. I didn't tested start treshold because my battery was almost full.

 

Due to my observations I think that this start/stop tresholds is saved in some chip and managed by bios or charging subsystem (at least when set with geniue ThinkVantage PowerManager). Why? Because when I use win 7 I have 30% start treshold and 100% stop and when I shut down my laptop at let's say 35% battery level and at the end of the day I connect turned off laptop to docking station there is no charging. But when I shut down laptop at eg. 25% battery when I connect it to the docking station battery charges to 100% (stop treshold).

Also, when I first tried win 10 on this laptop I didn't changed this tresholds before switching to disk with win 10 and when my battery level was at 40% I connected AC power adapter but the charging didn't started.

 

Of course - there are some other methods to test - I read about changing this tresholds in registry keys from Lenovo Settings Dependency Package - maybe there is some problem with writing this treshold to registry by this custom Power Manager?

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-09, 9:16 AM
 

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Due to my observations I think that this start/stop tresholds is saved in some chip and managed by bios or charging subsystem (at least when set with geniue ThinkVantage PowerManager).

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I think you're right. 

 

I just fresh installed Win 7 64 on a T430 that had Power Mgr. installed previously.  I had charging thresholds set to start at 20% and stop at 80%.  Right now, the laptop is running again but I have not installed Power Mgr. app, only the PM driver (which is needed for on-screen display).

 

Windows' own taskbar battery display shows just those settings from before.  Laptop is plugged in and not charging, as the battery level is between the two threshold values. 

 

I wish some honcho from Lenovo would pop in here and tell that they're going to do something about this.  Charging thresholds are a VERY desireable attribute to have for a device with a battery.  How about it, Lenovo?

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-09, 12:20 PM

I wonder if this will work under Win 10.

 

Found this forum post while looking for other solutions.  If you're currently previewing Win 10, maybe you can give it try and let us know...

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-09, 20:30 PM

Today I tested this one more time, and unfortunately nothing works (Start treshold too).

Custom PowerManager successfully write thresholds values to registry but this values aren't copied to charging chip.

I think that could be because of win 8.1 version Lenovo Settings Dependency Package is completely or partially incompatible with win 10?

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-10, 7:37 AM

They've rolled out Win 10 versions of "Settings Dependency for Windows". 

 

Try that?

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-11, 14:47 PM

Tested win 10 version of Lenovo Settings Dependency Package and battery thresholds don't work on this version too.

In this case we must wait for win 10 Power Management Driver and HOPEFULLY legit PowerManager ;)

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-11, 15:19 PM

Or at least the working registry hack...

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2015-07-11, 16:05 PM

"Registry hack" and even this custom win 8 PowerManager are both working. What I mean - this PM is able to change this 4 registry values which are added to windows register by Lenovo Settings Dependecy Package (along with many other keys).

Only problem is in applying this values to charge chip or (if this thresholds are controlled by windows when computer is running) in reading or understanding this instructions by OS - and I think Power Management Driver is responsible for this.

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Re: Power Manager for Windows 10?

2015-07-11, 16:10 PM
Maybe it will be working, when the Windows 10 will be stable and so do drivers? Now everything is in beta stage :)
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2015-07-21, 16:34 PM

Any changes in Windows 10 and battery tresholds?

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