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High power comsumption and wrong setting when waking up from sleep

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See here for some more information: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Windows-7-RTM-Discussion/High-Power-Consumption-with-Windows-7/td-p/1668...

 

Settings: T400, integrated GPU,"maximum battery live" power sheme, brightness level 3, wlan on. Newest switchable graphics driver, power manager and power management drivers installed, SU4 didn't find newer drivers.

Power consumption is between 12-16W most of the time, whereas it was close to 10W on XP, from what i heard from a friend, i installed win7 on my machine right after i bought the thinkpad.

 

When waking up from sleep( i think hibernation as well) power consumption is abnormal, because both GPUs are activated. You have to switch to to the dedicated and back to the integrated via power manager to deactivate the ATI, which is very annoying.

Is lenovo working on these issues or are there any workaroungs already?

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Re: High power comsumption and wrong setting when waking up from sleep

My best guess at a workaround on both issues is to point Windows 7 to the same power plan being used by the ThinkPad Power Manager:

 

Start > Control Panel > Hardware > Power Options > Change settings that are currently unavailable > Maximum Battery Life

 

I'm assuming that the current setting is Balanced (recommended).

 

This guess has some application to my T61 with integrated graphics running older versions of the ThinkPad Power Manager and ThinkPad Power Management Driver.  It might not apply to your T400 with switchable graphics, but it seemed reasonable to mention it.

 

Unless it doesn't work, in which case you didn't hear this from me.

 

Don

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Re: High power comsumption and wrong setting when waking up from sleep

Doesn't have anything to do with this issue

 

You don't switch the graphics cards by powerplan but by a few mouse clicks in the context menu of the power manager gadget in the taskbar. The powerplans don't affect the graphics cards at all!

 

Stefan

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Re: High power comsumption and wrong setting when waking up from sleep

Don't know if this is relevant, but found a guy posting on his blog that he booted into BIOS and shut off the ATI card, and found his battery life back to normal.

 

http://djjlewis.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/lenovo-thinkpad-t400-battery-life-on-windows-7/

 

 

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Re: High power comsumption and wrong setting when waking up from sleep

yes, of course that works, but then you disable the switchable graphics, which was/is one of the major reasons to buy a thinkpad...

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Re: High power comsumption and wrong setting when waking up from sleep

I agree with you Sayuuk, but I'm more in need of battery life at this point then in need of better graphics.  When I'm going to need the switchable graphics, I can boot through BIOS again and change it back--it's a five-minute inconvenience.

 

That said, it's still inexcusable on the parts of Lenovo/ATI not to have a better driver solution for this situation.  I'm tempted to blame ATI, but that's because I'm fond on Lenovo. Emoticono muy feliz

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Re: High power comsumption and wrong setting when waking up from sleep

I've got the same problem. It's quite annoying and because I need dedicated gpu for my work, bios solution can't work for me. Does anyone have some idea? Emoticono indiferente

 

Lenovo T400 2765-8HG, Win 7 32bit

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Re: High power comsumption and wrong setting when waking up from sleep

I've got similar problems on a T400 with hybrid graphics running Windows 7 x64 Professional, upgraded from Vista x64 Professional. I've upgraded everything to the latest (driver, bios, etc etc) using System Update.

 

When I boot up from cold, and switch to using batteries, the power consumption is around 8w. Very good.

 

Then I suspend, and resume from suspend, and the power consumption shoots up to like 20w. Horrible.

 

Then I manually switch to "High performance" and then back to "Energy saving", the power consumption comes back down, but to >9w, which is like 13% above the original 8w level. Acceptable, but not good.

 

This seems to indicate there're at least two problems with the power management aspect of T400 + Win7 x64:

 

First, there is the well-known problem that both internal and external graphics cards get turned on upon resume. Lenovo, please fix this problem. It's completely unacceptable to have to manually perform that switching every time one closes, and then opens the lid, or loss 60% of the battery life.  And I do need to use the external GPU from time to time, so disabling it at BIOS level is not acceptable either.

 

Second, there is the more subtle problem that some other hardware/driver besides the graphics card makes the T400 draw an extra >1w upon resume.

 

I really wonder if these problems occur with T400 preinstalled with Win7 x64. If they do, shouldn't every major laptop review sites take notice of the defect and warn people. If they don't, then I do not really see why it's so hard for Lenovo to provide earlier users with the right driver/registry patch/etc to enable the correct behavior. As far as I know, these problems have not been fixed since Win7 came out.

 

Finally let me add that other that this, I'm extremely satisfied with my T400/Win7 system. The thermal dissipation, noise level, and durability are just top-notch. But this just makes the above mentioned problems more of a thorn in the side!

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Re: High power comsumption and wrong setting when waking up from sleep

I do not see this behaviour on my T500 with Win7 Ultimate 64bit. Maybe it was fixed by the latest PowerManager and BIOS updates? I installed everything from the web site (PowerManager+Driver, BIOS 3.12) and it is not a problem anymore.

 

I also do not see both graphics adapters in Device Manager after waking up from sleep mode/hibernate, i see ATI+Intel when in ATI mode (which is correct) and only the Intel one in Intel mode (which is also correct).

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Re: High power comsumption and wrong setting when waking up from sleep

I just upgraded to the latest PowerManager and BIOS (3.12) and the problem still is there...

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