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X220 Won't boot Samsung 830 SSD

2012-06-29, 19:47 PM

I have a Lenovo X220 laptop with a 320GB Hitachi hard drive,
and it works just fine. But I decided I needed more speed,
so I bought a Samsung 830 SSD for it. I cloned the entire
X220 hard drive to the SSD (using a USB external case and
HDClone4), and everything looks fine on the SSD (when viewed
with Partition Wizard on another machine while the SSD is still
in the USB enclosure). But the SSD will not boot in the X220!
It starts, and in fact it gets as far as saying "Starting Windows",
and then moving the four color dots (of Windows 7) around a
little bit, and then it momentarily flashes the dreaded
white-on-blue screen (so fast you cannot tell what it says),
and then it enters the recovery-menu screen. Bummer!

I called Lenovo tech support and they essentially told me to
GET LOST because they "don't support" me installing an SSD
(even though the X220 User's Guide shows exactly that).

I've used HDClone4 several times in the past (to clone hard
drives for my stable of Lenovo T60 laptops), and it seems to
always work just fine. So why is this not working for my X220
and Samsung 830? Note that, while I don't expect Lenovo to
certify compatibility with every flea-bit SSD on the market,
this Samsung 830 is highly regarded by many well-respected
reviewers (Tom's Hardware, my favorite, in particular).

Has anyone here heard this song before? Is there something
peculiar about the X220 and/or the Samsung 830? I'd sure
appreciate any helpful advice. Thanks.

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Re: X220 Won't boot Samsung 830 SSD

2012-06-29, 19:53 PM

Did you uninstall (+ reboot) Lenovo Rapid Boot before cloning the HDD drive ?

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Re: X220 Won't boot Samsung 830 SSD

2012-06-29, 19:53 PM

Did you uninstall (+ reboot) Lenovo Rapid Boot before cloning the HDD drive ?

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Re: X220 Won't boot Samsung 830 SSD

2012-06-30, 0:10 AM

A few things to try...

  • Boot from your hard drive in a USB external enclosure (press F12 during startup). After startup, check that the X220 can access the SSD in the drive bay.
  • Press F8 while it is booting and see if it can boot in safe mode
  • Press the blue ThinkVantage key while booting and run system repair
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Re: X220 Won't boot Samsung 830 SSD

2012-06-30, 6:50 AM

Hello,

 

I do not know if this is the case with the ThinkPad X220, but I have found that when cloning the hard disk drive in earlier models, the disk cloning operation seems to perform best if the new drive is installed into the ThinkPad and the old hard disk drive is connected via USB enclosure.

 

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Re: X220 Won't boot Samsung 830 SSD

2012-06-30, 20:09 PM

Well of course I didn't remove RapidBoot first, mostly because I had never even
HEARD of it! However, when I looked it up, it became immediately obvious that
RapidBoot is the the sort of chimera that typically causes these nightmares.
So I then took your advice, and removed it, then rebooted, and then recloned.
Long story short: IT ALL WORKS GREAT!

BOTTOM LINE: The Samsung 830 SSD works just fine in the X220, and so,
presumably, would any other modern SSD. Since I already have an SSD
(Intel X-25M/120) in my W520, I figured I was mentally prepared for the
expected huge boost in speed, but I was wrong. Since I haven't used my W520
in a while, I had sorta forgotten how ENORMOUSLY FAST an SSD is. This X220
is now a blazing rocketship. It loads Visual Studio 2005 in less than one
second, and that's after a cold boot when nothing is cached in DRAM. Wow.

I'm recommending you for one Megakudo! Surely that clown that answered the
phone at Lenovo knew about the RapidBoot problem and could have just TOLD me.
You DID take the time to tell me, and I surely do appreciate it!

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Re: X220 Won't boot Samsung 830 SSD

2012-07-01, 11:17 AM

Um, a slight correction: I don't really have an Intel X-25M/120 in my W520.

The W520 has whatever Intel SSD Lenovo put in it.  (The X-25M/120 is in

my Windows XP desktop.)   Sorry for the confusion!

 

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Re: X220 Won't boot Samsung 830 SSD

2012-07-01, 11:21 AM

Booting from the USB enclosure seems like good advice, but it did not

even occur to me, since I've been working on these machines for about

30 years during which booting from USB wasn't even POSSIBLE! :-) 

I'll certainly keep your advice in mind, though.  Thanks. 

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Re: X220 Won't boot Samsung 830 SSD

2012-07-01, 11:26 AM

I cloned the drive the other way around (with the SSD in the USB enclosure),

and got away with it just fine. However, what you said makes sense, and I'll

keep it in mind.  Thanks for the advice. 

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Re: X220 Won't boot Samsung 830 SSD

2012-07-02, 4:18 AM

Was RapidBoot the problem? You marked the post as the answer. I don't understand why HDD vs SSD should make a difference for RapidBoot.

 

Others are successfully using Samsung 830 on a X220 (for example in this thread), so it is something specific about your system.

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Re: X220 Won't boot Samsung 830 SSD

2012-07-02, 10:51 AM

It sure looks to me like RapidBoot was the problem, in which case the post suggesting

that I remove it *is* the correct solution.

 

I also don't understand why HDD vs SSD should matter  After all, faking an HDD is the

WHOLE POINT of the SSD.  If it adheres to the SATA spec, it *is* a SATA disk.  

Might even quack like a duck. :-)  I susppect that I would have had the same problem,

if I had tried to clone the Lenovo HDD to another HDD of different geometry.  RapidBoot

is likely (from its description) to be tightly coupled to the actual geometry of the drive,

and therefore cause migration problems.

 

I have this theory that says that the other folks who are running Samsung 830 SSDs in

their X220s removed RapidBoot before they cloned their drives.

 

 

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