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X220 keyboard excessively mushy?

2011-12-03, 5:45 AM

Anyone noticing an excessive amount of mushiness on their keyboards? I was using an ASUS 1215BT before I got this X220 on sale at the outlet and the two keyboards are like night and day...and I don't mean that in a good way, it's extremely hard to tell when my keystrokes are getting registered on the X220 keyboard and it takes a very conscious effort to type anything without making multiple errors.I may have to just return this thing if thing's dont work out my way.

 

I have heard for ages about Lenovo's attention to detail and quality but i can't seem to reconcile this keyboard at all...did I just get a lemon? Or am I just not "getting" it?

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Re: X220 keyboard excessively mushy?

2011-12-03, 5:52 AM

I often miss a key on my x220 because it does not register correctly.

Happens especially with bigger keys (ctrl, tab, delete, enter, space) because they seem to flex and not register when my finger is not dead center on the key.

 

You can request a replacement keyboard, maybe you got a lemon. In my case I got used to it. But coming from an older IBM thinkpad, It took me a couple of days to get used to the keyboard of the x220.

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Re: X220 keyboard excessively mushy?

2011-12-03, 5:56 AM

Do you think requesting a replacement keyboard would help the situation? Did you do that? I love everything else about this netbook but if I can't type on this thing comfortably, it's going straight back to Lenovo.

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Re: X220 keyboard excessively mushy?

2011-12-04, 2:07 AM

I kind of have this issue, missing a good deal of keystrokes. I've never been sure if it's me or if it's the keyboard.

 

My previous laptop was a Thinkpad x100e--the dual-core AMD netbook that doubles as a tabletop space heater. But overheating aside, that keyboard was great, a little more forgiving, I found.

 

The big difference is that it had much firmer spring-back weight and very abrupt click-point. Therefore, it was nearly impossible to half-press a key and miss a click.

 

The X220 keyboard is mushier in the sense that it has very light spring resistance in the keys. That lightness, combined with the short vertical key travel, makes it difficult for me to find the actual click point--too easy to half-press, and too easy to not press at all, because the tactile feel of a successful click is so subtle.

 

So yeah, I find the X220 keyboard very mushy and hard to type accurately on, unless I'm at a desk so that I can really pound at the keys.

 

But I'd always assumed it's meant to be that way. The X220 keyboard is, after all, identical with the keyboard on the T420 and lots of other Thinkpads. Isn't this the fabled Thinkpad traditionalism?

 

Not judging, I just really don't know. Are the keyboards on the T and W series thinkpads just as soft and mushy, or are we seeing something unique to the X220?

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Re: X220 keyboard excessively mushy?

2011-12-04, 3:29 AM

I have the same issue on my 3month x121E

 

It seems like the keys sensitivity is pretty low.

 

Sometimes i miss a key and i dont notice is.

Otherwise i love the keyboard.. it just that responsiveness sometimes where u dont know if it registered or not.

Esp annoying when your fast typing...

 

 

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Re: X220 keyboard excessively mushy?

2011-12-04, 4:15 AM
my X220's keyboard seems to be quite good, the same keyboard design in my T400s do seem to have a mushy feel and it does sometime miss some key registration.
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Re: X220 keyboard excessively mushy?

2011-12-04, 6:46 AM
Hey guys, I asked around on a couple other forums and following their advice I've reseated the keyboard...it seems to have helped responsiveness significantly, it's still not ideal and it'll still take some getting used to, but now it's responsive enough to type on comfortably.

Ive heard that depending on the manufacturer or the keyboard (X220's have 3 different possible sources) you will get varying degrees of mush.

Hope this helps!
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Re: X220 keyboard excessively mushy?

2011-12-04, 20:49 PM
@dansseki,
You might want to see if you can try an ALPS manufactured keyboard. They're clicky and have a very clear click-point.

I personally prefer a slightly softer keyboard a la NMB and Chicony, but was given an ALPS on my W520.

W520: 2960XM, Q2000M @ 1091/1380, 32GB RAM, 500GB&750GB HDD & 500GB SSD, FHD&MB168B+
X61T: L7500, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, XGA screen, Ultrabase
W550s: 5600U, K620M at 1164/1281, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 3K touchscreen
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Re: X220 keyboard excessively mushy?

2011-12-05, 20:55 PM

How can we find out which keyboard manufactuer we got?

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Re: X220 keyboard excessively mushy?

2011-12-06, 4:13 AM
If you pick off one of the keys (carefully), you can look at the structure.

The ALPS have a white scissor switch, and a white dome.

I know some have a red dome, but I'm not entirely sure what the Chicony and NMB look like this generation; the NMB used to have blue domes.

The ALPS are really clacky and tend to depress by just resting your fingers on them. The NMB and Chicony scissor switches are able to support your fingers until you actually try to actuate the switch, at which point they depress softly. The ALPS just goes straight down until it bottoms out.

W520: 2960XM, Q2000M @ 1091/1380, 32GB RAM, 500GB&750GB HDD & 500GB SSD, FHD&MB168B+
X61T: L7500, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, XGA screen, Ultrabase
W550s: 5600U, K620M at 1164/1281, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 3K touchscreen
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