01-17-2017 11:03 PM
Anyone had any luck with the Elan driver/device? I have found the keys under
But the keys are completely different. Furthermore, if I change the behaviour in Mouse -> Advanced Settings -> ThinkPad -> TrackPoint -> Middle button, nothing changes in Regedit.
I tried removing the driver, installing the Elan drivers and even got to a stage where it stopped working completely. Now I managed to get back to factory state, but it is VERY annoying, that this works out of the box on Linux, but it is still a nightmare on Windows.
So if anyone has an Elan version and knows how to fix this, I have a beer for you.
05-13-2017 08:02 PM
Figured I'd stick this here, since it might help someone -
My T420's trackpoint drivers just got updated, and the stupid trackpoint-scrolling was back.
Went through my registry, double-checking things, before I realized that they have FINALLY gone and added an option for classic scrolling in the mouse control panel, so we don't have to mess with registry editing anymore.
It's in Control Panel -> Mouse -> TrackPoint. Click "neither" in the middle box, then settings below it, set "scrolling type" to "smooth".
05-14-2017 09:14 AM
No, that does not fix the problem most users are concerned about. It makes it worse!
I agree that it's convenient to have settings in the Control Panel, but most of us WANT to be able to hold the blue button and use the Trackpoint to scroll pages up/down and left/right. This has worked reasonably well (better with the Synaptics driver than the Microsoft driver, but worked with both) except for "Metro" apps. That is what we are hoping to see fixed.
Applications like the Edge browser, News, the new Start menu, and the tiled "applications picker" don't scroll with any driver we've found. That's still a problem. Your proposed solution does not help.
05-14-2017 02:09 PM
Finally got Metro apps to scroll for me today, after several previous attempts. Here's what I did:
Today I absentmindedly installed the Windows mouse driver, which made things worse. In the course of restoring what I had, I installed a newer Synaptics driver:
Old version: 126.96.36.199 25 Aug 15, install path: drivers|WIN|UltraNAV|WDF|...
New version: 188.8.131.52 20 Sept 16, install path: drivers|WIN|UNAV|WDF\...
You do have to take some unnatural actions to make this driver install. Downloading it and attempting to install it will unpack it (to the path above) and then announce failure. To force the install, open the mouse in Device Manager, select Driver, Update Driver, Manually, then Have Disk, navigate to the path above, then select X86 (32-bit) or X64 (64-bit), as appropriate and continue the install. Reboot when asked.
This restored all the features I had and now scrolls in Metro Apps. Everything I wanted. Kind of quirky that they changed the path but it does let you keep both sets around in case you do need to revert.
As an aside, I turned on the System Restore feature today--I was surprised that it was off by default.
11-07-2017 01:34 PM
Nice to see you got it working LarryM2 - good for you
It would be nice if Lenovo would work with Microsoft to get the ALPS Touchpad to scroll in Metro(Modern UI) - So far, both Lenovo and Microsoft has ignored my requests(it's not only me asking, also people not owning thinkpad, but having ALPS touchpad) - The stupid thing is that the scroll works in Firefox, registry(YES, stupid), devicemanager, and others - but don't work in Edge, Store, Startmenu and the pages under Settings. I tried basically all the 8 series of drivers(and the re-branded Win10 drivers) and they disable the the touchpad completely after reboot - Stupid - they ought to come up with a message that they are not compatible, but that would mean that the driverprogrammers actually had a brain.
I even tried touchpad drivers from other laptop manufacturerers like DELL and Toshiba, to no use.
I tried getting Mark_Lenovo to help, by addressing the issue to him in the forum, but the moderator went in and changed the title - Thank you(sarcasm)! I tried going through the long list of Windows 10 approved Thinkpads to see if I could find a matching driver - of course not, all drivers are in either series 8 ALPS drivers or synaptics drivers.
So my X300 works with everything in windows 10 - EXCEPT scrolling in Metro(Modern) UI - Nice(sarcasm).
12-07-2017 12:49 PM - edited 12-08-2017 01:12 PM
If you read this posting on 7 December 2017 before I deleted it, disregard it. The fix above still works.
I received the latest Windows update and once again they gratuitously replaced the working Synaptics driver with a broken "PS/2 TrackPoint" driver. When I tried to reinstate the Synaptics driver it wouldn't install and I received a message to the effect that "Windows has determined that the PS/2 TrackPoint driver is the best choice."
I hadn't realized that in the driver replacement dialog, the message beginning
"-->Manually replace..." was actually clickable (not informational) and permitted overriding the Windows default. I followed the procedure above and all is back to normal (thankfully).
Still have to see if Microsoft also messed up the printer driver...