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COA decal ?

2014-03-12, 17:15 PM

DO laptops come with a COA decal anymore?

Even if you buy a laptop with Windows 8 ?

I thought the COA was required to display that the copy of Windows is licensed and is legit.

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Re: COA decal ?

2014-03-12, 17:55 PM

Starting with Windows 8 PC makers are putting the product key in the BIOS. This is intended to prevent someone from using the product key that used to be printed on a sticker with a different system, say an older model that came with Windows 7.

 

There should still be a Microsoft sticker on to indicate a legitimate copy of Windows was installed on your system. The sticker could be on the bottom of your system, in the battery compartment, under a SIM card cover, etc. The User Guide should indicate where the sticker is located.

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Re: COA decal ?

2014-03-12, 18:00 PM

OK, so now... if you want to do a fresh install you would have to buy an OEM copy of Windows 7, or Windows 8 for that matter... which for me is a none issue since I do not plan on using Win 8 at any time siknce Win 7 is perfect for me.

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Re: COA decal ?

2014-03-12, 19:14 PM

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if you want to do a fresh install you would have to buy an OEM copy of Windows 7


As I understand it you can still order ThinkPads with Win7 rather than Win8. This option is essentially a Win8 system that has been downgraded to Win7. This presumably also allows you to go to Win8 in the future should you decide to do so. I'm not familiar with the specific details, e.g. whether this option is only for "Pro" versions of Win8/Win7.

 

If you want to do a fresh install of the Windows that came with your system you should create a set of recovery media as described in the documentation for your system, usually in the User Guide. You can also do a fresh install using the recovery partition on the HDD/SSD providing that drive is functional. The separate recovery media lets you do it in the event of a disk failure.

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2014-03-12, 19:36 PM

But... there is no COA

I would not want to particularly use the recovery CDs generated by the laptop, because thats probably going to put a bunch of bloatware back on the system which defeats the purpose of the clean OS install.

It appears that buying an OEM copy of Win 7 is becoming the only option for clean installs as it appears that MS and PC manufactuerers are moving to stop fresh installs so they can control what is on your computer.

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Re: COA decal ?

2014-03-12, 20:07 PM
On models where windows8 is an option, some models come with motherboards having windows8 keys in the BIOS and some models that are not licensed for windows8 do not. Those machines licensed for windows 8 have a sticker on the bottom with a windows8 logo.

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Re: COA decal ?

2014-03-12, 20:13 PM

OK, so if you get one with Windows 8 in the BIOS... how is it going to work if you buy an OEM copy of Win 7 and try to install it?

Is that going to over write the Win 8 key in the BIOS?

I'd like to stay away from Win 8 since they probably installed a back door for someone to be able to track all yo activities.  You know how things are these days.

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Re: COA decal ?

2014-03-12, 20:19 PM

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I'd like to stay away from Win 8 since they probably installed a back door for someone to be able to track all yo activities.  You know how things are these days.


How do you know they haven't also installed back doors in previous versions of Windows? ;)

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Re: COA decal ?

2014-03-12, 20:55 PM

It's easier to board up the Windows on earlier versions of Windows.

I can't help but wonder if Jim Morrison would have lived and become a business man, maybe he would have created a colmpeting operating system and would have called it... Doors.

Well, ya gotta take a stab at a little humor every now and again :smileyhappy:

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Re: COA decal ?

2014-03-18, 15:16 PM

KM,

 

Punny.  Love it!

 

I think you have gotten some good answers so far... here is my understanding, and hope it helps address anything not already covered.

 

New systems sold with Windows 8/8.1 preloads will have BIOS keys for either Windows or Windows pro version to match the preload.  These keys will not be overwritten if someone installs Windows 7.

 

However, these systems do not all automatically come with Win 7 licenses.  Some may be sold with Win 7 downgrade, in which case they will have both sets of keys.  The Win 7 should then have a COA. EDIT - No paper COA is applied.

 

This will match with the particular version of Win 7 (Home Premium or Professional) regardless of whether 32 or 64 bit, but will not work with other versions of Win 7.

 

If you didn't get the downgrade model and have only Windows 8 license, there will be no COA on the system and if you want to install Windows 7, you will need a retail copy that comes with keys.  EDIT - This is still true, but there will be no COA either way.  If you didn't get a downgrade, the SLIC markers to support Windows 7 will not be present and you will need a retail license.

 

Hope this helps.

 

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Re: COA decal ?

2014-03-18, 15:43 PM

Some may be sold with Win 7 downgrade, in which case they will have both sets of keys.  The Win 7 should then have a COA....


If you didn't get the downgrade model and have only Windows 8 license, there will be no COA on the system and if you want to install Windows 7, you will need a retail copy that comes with keys.

Based on what you just said... the laptop I received had Win 7 pre-installed, therefore it is required to have a Win 7 COA.

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Re: COA decal ?

2014-03-18, 16:58 PM

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Some may be sold with Win 7 downgrade, in which case they will have both sets of keys.  The Win 7 should then have a COA.


Thanks for the clarifications, Mark.

 

Related questions:

 

 

1. Some current ThinkPad models can be ordered with either Win8 or Win7. When I select Win7 the detail says "Preload OS Windows 7 Professional 64" and "Preload Type Standard Image." There's no mention about downgrade/upgrade rights. There is an extra $50 charge compared to Win8. Is it safe to infer from that charge that this is a downgraded license and that should I choose to upgrade to Win8/8.1 in the future I can do so without paying anything extra?

 

2. What's on the recovery partition in this situation? Presumably it's Win7. How do I get a Win8/8.1 partition if I need it in the future?

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Re: COA decal ?

2014-03-18, 18:51 PM

KM,

 

I've reviewed with our program manager who owns the MS licensing and need to ammend a potion of my earlier reply.

 

New systems ship with Win 8/8.1 and will have the Win 8 sticker, but no COA.   Win 8 marker is in BIOS - what I said previously is correct.

 

If you purchased a Windows 7 downgrade config, that will have the Win 7 activation keys on the planar, but will NOT have with Windows 7 COA sticker on the bottom as in the past.  Windows 7 will be preloaded on the drive, and the recovery partion will by Windows 7.

 

The system will come with Windows 8/8.1 recovery media.  If you use this disk, it will wipe all the prior Windows 7, including the hidden system partition.  The Win 7 keys will still remain with the system board, but you would need to have made Windows 7 recovery disk before you wiped the drive to reload.

 

I'll now ammend prior post with strikethrough to preserve the context.

 

We don't have COAs that we send out.

 

Hope this clears up your questions, and the other follow on questions...

 

Best regards,

 

Mark

 

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Re: COA decal ?

2014-03-18, 19:05 PM

Well, I guess I'm officially "Old School" seeing I don't want Win 8 and I prefer to have a COA on my computers.

The young'uns will now start making fun of me...

Only thing left to do now is start hording copies of Win 7 for future computers :smileyhappy:

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